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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	 Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,  Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	 "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Andy Shevchenko <andy@kernel.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	 Davide Ciminaghi <ciminaghi@gnudd.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/11] x86: drop 32-bit KVM host support
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 07:30:58 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z1B1phcpbiYWLgCD@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241204103042.1904639-12-arnd@kernel.org>

On Wed, Dec 04, 2024, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
> 
> There are very few 32-bit machines that support KVM, the main exceptions
> are the "Yonah" Generation Xeon-LV and Core Duo from 2006 and the Atom
> Z5xx "Silverthorne" from 2008 that were all release just before their
> 64-bit counterparts.
> 
> Using KVM as a host on a 64-bit CPU using a 32-bit kernel generally
> works fine, but is rather pointless since 64-bit kernels are much better
> supported and deal better with the memory requirements of VM guests.
> 
> Drop all the 32-bit-only portions and the "#ifdef CONFIG_X86_64" checks
> of the x86 KVM code and add a Kconfig dependency to only allow building
> this on 64-bit kernels.

While 32-bit KVM doesn't need to be a thing for x86 usage, Paolo expressed concerns
that dropping 32-bit support on x86 would cause general 32-bit KVM support to
bitrot horribly.  32-bit x86 doesn't get much testing, but I do at least boot VMs
with it on a semi-regular basis.  I don't think we can say the same for other
architectures with 32-bit variants.

PPC apparently still has 32-bit users[1][2], and 32-bit RISC-V is a thing, so I
think we're stuck with 32-bit x86 for the time being. :-(

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/87zg4aveow.fsf@mail.lhotse
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/fc43f9eb-a60f-5c4a-a694-83029234a9c4@xenosoft.de

  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-04 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-04 10:30 [PATCH 00/11] x86: 32-bit cleanups Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 10:30 ` [PATCH 01/11] x86/Kconfig: Geode CPU has cmpxchg8b Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 10:30 ` [PATCH 02/11] x86: drop 32-bit "bigsmp" machine support Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 10:30 ` [PATCH 03/11] x86: Kconfig.cpu: split out 64-bit atom Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 13:16   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-12-04 15:55     ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-12-04 18:21       ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-12-04 10:30 ` [PATCH 04/11] x86: split CPU selection into 32-bit and 64-bit Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 18:31   ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-12-04 21:18     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 10:30 ` [PATCH 05/11] x86: remove HIGHMEM64G support Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 13:29   ` Brian Gerst
2024-12-04 13:43     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 14:02       ` Brian Gerst
2024-12-04 15:00         ` Brian Gerst
2024-12-04 15:58         ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-12-04 15:53       ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-12-04 16:37     ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-12-04 16:55       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 18:37         ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-12-04 21:14           ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-04-11 23:44   ` Dave Hansen
2025-04-12  8:39     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-12 10:05     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-12 10:44       ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-04-12 19:48       ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-13  8:08         ` [PATCH] x86/e820: discard high memory that can't be addressed by 32-bit systems Mike Rapoport
2025-04-13  9:23           ` [tip: x86/urgent] x86/e820: Discard " tip-bot2 for Mike Rapoport (Microsoft)
2025-04-14 14:19             ` Dave Hansen
2025-04-15  7:18               ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-15 13:43                 ` Dave Hansen
2025-04-16  7:17                   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-16  7:51                     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-16  7:24           ` tip-bot2 for Mike Rapoport (Microsoft)
2025-04-16  8:16           ` tip-bot2 for Mike Rapoport (Microsoft)
2025-04-17 16:22           ` [PATCH] x86/e820: discard " Nathan Chancellor
2025-04-18  6:33             ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-18  9:01               ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-18 12:59                 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-04-18 19:25                   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-04-18 19:29                     ` Dave Hansen
2025-04-18 19:49           ` Guenter Roeck
2025-04-12 10:40     ` [PATCH 05/11] x86: remove HIGHMEM64G support Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 10:30 ` [PATCH 06/11] x86: drop SWIOTLB and PHYS_ADDR_T_64BIT for PAE Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 18:41   ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-12-04 20:52     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-05  7:59       ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-12-04 10:30 ` [PATCH 07/11] x86: drop support for CONFIG_HIGHPTE Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 10:30 ` [PATCH 08/11] x86: document X86_INTEL_MID as 64-bit-only Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 18:55   ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-12-04 20:38     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-05  8:03       ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-12-06 11:23     ` Ferry Toth
2024-12-06 14:27       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 10:30 ` [PATCH 09/11] x86: rework CONFIG_GENERIC_CPU compiler flags Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 15:36   ` Tor Vic
2024-12-04 17:51     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 17:09   ` Nathan Chancellor
2024-12-04 17:52     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 18:10   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-12-04 19:43     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 23:33       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-12-05  8:13         ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-12-05 10:09           ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-05 11:17             ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-12-05 11:58               ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-05 12:35                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-12-05  9:46         ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-05 10:01           ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-12-05 10:47             ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-05  8:07       ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-12-06 13:56   ` David Laight
2024-12-04 10:30 ` [PATCH 10/11] x86: remove old STA2x11 support Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-05  7:35   ` Davide Ciminaghi
2024-12-04 10:30 ` [PATCH 11/11] x86: drop 32-bit KVM host support Arnd Bergmann
2024-12-04 15:30   ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-12-04 16:33     ` Arnd Bergmann

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