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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org>
Cc: Eric Woudstra <ericwouds@gmail.com>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	Frank Wunderlich <frank-w@public-files.de>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, coreteam@netfilter.org,
	bridge@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next] net: phylink: always config mac for (delayed) phy
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2025 14:59:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z31BRMay2QgcjX2R@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z30pMSxDn-R3Cy5S@makrotopia.org>

On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 01:16:33PM +0000, Daniel Golle wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 12:47:14PM +0000, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > ... but we don't see link-up reported by the PCS after the PHY comes
> > up. Why is that - I think that needs investigation before we proceed
> > to patch the issue, because that suggests the PCS isn't seeing
> > valid 2500base-X from the PHY.
> 
> The PCS doesn't support in-band status in 2500Base-X mode, or at least
> the implementation isn't compatible with those RealTek PHYs.

There is in-band for base-X, which involves 16-bit control words to
report the capabilities of either end (basically half/full duplex,
pause modes). Unlike SGMII, it doesn't contain any status bits for
link up, because that is irrelevant.

Link-up state in base-X modes comes from the PCS itself, whether the
PCS is in sync with the media, and whether it has valid format. This
has *nothing* to do with in-band.

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-07 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-07 12:36 [PATCH RFC net-next] net: phylink: always config mac for (delayed) phy Eric Woudstra
2025-01-07 12:47 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-07 13:14   ` Eric Woudstra
2025-01-07 13:20     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-07 14:23       ` Eric Woudstra
2025-01-07 15:03     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-09  8:56       ` Eric Woudstra
2025-01-09  9:15         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-06-02  7:19           ` Ilya K
2025-06-02  8:48             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-06-02 13:00               ` Ilya K
2025-06-02 15:25                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-06-03 18:17                   ` Ilya K
2025-01-07 13:16   ` Daniel Golle
2025-01-07 13:26     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-07 14:59     ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]

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