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From: Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>
To: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
Cc: "Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
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Subject: Re: [WIP RFC v2 33/35] WIP: rust: drm/kms: Add VblankSupport
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 16:38:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z4aFBhzyBrq48aib@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANiq72=M3=0rcTfQS9Gch8NeNyrpXb91t-z-gDBSDO8V-Bh5gQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 04:04:41PM +0100, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 3:24 PM Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> >
> > Feels like trying to replicate docs in rust might be dangerous, because if
> > we have to keep really detailed and nuanced docs around in two places we
> > will fail.
> >
> > Imo would be better to just explain how this maps to the C side and link
> > to that for full docs? Or somehow include that, but then all the
> > hyperlinks need to work from the C side kerneldoc or it's again
> > incomplete.
> 
> Yeah, if things would be duplicated (in a way that does not add much
> value, e.g. things that do not require linking to many Rust-side
> things or does not use the examples KUnit support etc.), then I would
> say it is best to do it in a single place.
> 
> To do that, we already support the `srctree/` links that can point to
> files (and in rust.docs.kernel.org get rendered to git.kernel.org). To
> point to rendered docs instead of files, for the time being the best
> so far is to link to docs.kernel.org directly.
> 
> Then, what I proposed to upstream Rust is to have a feature that would
> give us a way to have a bibliography/map of links that could be used
> similarly to the existing intradoc-links in Rust docs. That way,
> projects could write something like [`struct my_struct`] and you would
> automatically get a link to the suitable URL to the C item, or
> something like [`ref:interleaved_replies`] to get a link to the
> Documentation/ rST reference and so on. It would also help to have
> common links without having to repeat them everywhere. With that in
> place, we could replace the docs.kernel.org links (though that
> requires rendering the docs, and we heard from at least someone that
> didn't want that at all...).

Yeah I think something like [`struct my_struct`] in the rust doc to link
to the C side would be best. Dropping full url is kinda nasty, because it
also makes navigating the source code itself harder. And I fairly often
read the kerneldoc in the sources itself, not the rendered form. But
that's maybe more a developer/maintainer use-case, since generally when I
read docs it's to make sure they still match the code, so best when that's
all close together.

> Then we can also work on the other direction somehow, e.g. sharing a
> way to render docs properly for both C and Rust. I would like to work
> on some of that after the build system stuff.

Hm I guess the other direction might apply for when we implement helpers
in rust that C drivers are expected to use, like the qr code generator we
now have. I think at least medium term most of our referencing needs will
go from rustdoc to kerneldoc though, and not the other direction.
-Sima
-- 
Simona Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-14 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20240930233257.1189730-1-lyude@redhat.com>
2024-09-30 23:09 ` [WIP RFC v2 01/35] WIP: rust/drm: Add fourcc bindings Lyude Paul
2024-10-01  9:25   ` Jani Nikula
2024-10-01 15:18     ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-03  8:33   ` Louis Chauvet
2024-10-03 20:16     ` Lyude Paul
2024-11-26 17:40   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-11-27 21:11     ` Lyude Paul
2025-01-14 18:54       ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-30 23:09 ` [WIP RFC v2 02/35] WIP: rust: drm: Add traits for registering KMS devices Lyude Paul
2024-11-26 18:18   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-11-27 21:21     ` Lyude Paul
2024-12-05 14:03       ` Daniel Almeida
2024-12-03 22:41     ` Lyude Paul
2024-12-05 13:43       ` Daniel Almeida
2024-12-06 15:23   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-09 23:20     ` Lyude Paul
2024-09-30 23:09 ` [WIP RFC v2 03/35] rust: drm/kms/fbdev: Add FbdevShmem Lyude Paul
2024-11-26 19:58   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-30 23:09 ` [WIP RFC v2 04/35] rust: drm/kms: Introduce the main ModeConfigObject traits Lyude Paul
2024-11-26 20:34   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-30 23:09 ` [WIP RFC v2 05/35] rust: drm/kms: Add bindings for drm_connector Lyude Paul
2024-11-26 21:25   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-12-04 21:16     ` Lyude Paul
2024-12-04 21:18       ` Lyude Paul
2024-12-10 23:41     ` Lyude Paul
2024-12-11  8:43       ` Simona Vetter
2024-12-12  0:34         ` Lyude Paul
2024-12-12 10:03           ` Simona Vetter
2024-09-30 23:09 ` [WIP RFC v2 06/35] rust: drm/kms: Add drm_plane bindings Lyude Paul
2024-10-03  8:30   ` Louis Chauvet
2024-10-03 20:06     ` Lyude Paul
2024-11-27 14:05   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-12-12 21:28     ` Lyude Paul
2024-09-30 23:09 ` [WIP RFC v2 07/35] WIP: rust: drm/kms: Add drm_crtc bindings Lyude Paul
2024-11-27 14:36   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-12-12 22:25     ` Lyude Paul
2024-09-30 23:09 ` [WIP RFC v2 08/35] rust: drm/kms: Add bindings for drm_encoder Lyude Paul
2024-09-30 23:09 ` [WIP RFC v2 09/35] WIP: rust: drm/kms: Add Connector.attach_encoder() Lyude Paul
2024-11-27 14:43   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-30 23:09 ` [WIP RFC v2 10/35] rust: drm/kms: Add DriverConnector::get_mode callback Lyude Paul
2024-11-27 15:03   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-12-12 22:37     ` Lyude Paul
2024-09-30 23:09 ` [WIP RFC v2 11/35] rust: drm/kms: Add ConnectorGuard::add_modes_noedid() Lyude Paul
2024-11-27 15:06   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-30 23:09 ` [WIP RFC v2 12/35] rust: drm/kms: Add ConnectorGuard::set_preferred_mode Lyude Paul
2024-11-27 15:11   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-30 23:09 ` [WIP RFC v2 13/35] WIP: rust: drm/kms: Add OpaqueConnector and OpaqueConnectorState Lyude Paul
2024-11-27 15:51   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-12-05 23:25     ` Lyude Paul
2024-09-30 23:09 ` [WIP RFC v2 14/35] WIP: rust: drm/kms: Add OpaqueCrtc and OpaqueCrtcState Lyude Paul
2024-11-27 16:00   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-12-12 23:01     ` Lyude Paul
2024-09-30 23:09 ` [WIP RFC v2 15/35] WIP: rust: drm/kms: Add OpaquePlane and OpaquePlaneState Lyude Paul
2024-11-27 17:03   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-30 23:09 ` [WIP RFC v2 16/35] rust: drm/kms: Add RawConnector and RawConnectorState Lyude Paul
2024-11-27 19:26   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 17/35] rust: drm/kms: Add RawCrtc and RawCrtcState Lyude Paul
2024-11-27 19:29   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 18/35] rust: drm/kms: Add RawPlane and RawPlaneState Lyude Paul
2024-11-27 19:30   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 19/35] WIP: rust: drm/kms: Add OpaqueEncoder Lyude Paul
2024-11-27 19:35   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 20/35] WIP: rust: drm/kms: Add drm_atomic_state bindings Lyude Paul
2024-11-27 20:54   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-12-12 23:37     ` Lyude Paul
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 21/35] rust: drm/kms: Introduce DriverCrtc::atomic_check() Lyude Paul
2024-11-28 13:37   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-01-13 23:43     ` Lyude Paul
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 22/35] rust: drm/kms: Add DriverPlane::atomic_update() Lyude Paul
2024-11-28 13:38   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-01-13 23:47     ` Lyude Paul
2024-11-28 13:51   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-01-13 23:53     ` Lyude Paul
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 23/35] rust: drm/kms: Add DriverPlane::atomic_check() Lyude Paul
2024-11-28 13:49   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-01-13 23:51     ` Lyude Paul
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 24/35] rust: drm/kms: Add RawCrtcState::active() Lyude Paul
2024-11-28 13:54   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 25/35] rust: drm/kms: Add RawPlaneState::crtc() Lyude Paul
2024-11-28 13:58   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 26/35] WIP: rust: drm/kms: Add RawPlaneState::atomic_helper_check() Lyude Paul
2024-11-28 14:04   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-01-13 23:57     ` Lyude Paul
2025-01-14 14:07       ` Simona Vetter
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 27/35] rust: drm/kms: Add drm_framebuffer bindings Lyude Paul
2024-11-28 14:26   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 28/35] rust: drm/kms: Add RawPlane::framebuffer() Lyude Paul
2024-11-28 14:29   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-01-14  0:03     ` Lyude Paul
2025-01-14 14:09       ` Simona Vetter
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 29/35] rust: drm/kms: Add DriverCrtc::atomic_begin() and atomic_flush() Lyude Paul
2024-11-28 14:31   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 30/35] rust: drm/kms: Add DriverCrtc::atomic_enable() and atomic_disable() Lyude Paul
2024-11-28 14:33   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 31/35] rust: drm: Add Device::event_lock() Lyude Paul
2024-11-28 14:35   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 32/35] rust: drm/kms: Add Device::num_crtcs() Lyude Paul
2024-11-28 14:38   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-01-14  0:05     ` Lyude Paul
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 33/35] WIP: rust: drm/kms: Add VblankSupport Lyude Paul
2024-12-05 15:29   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-01-14  0:43     ` Lyude Paul
2025-01-14 14:24       ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-14 15:04         ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-01-14 15:38           ` Simona Vetter [this message]
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 34/35] WIP: rust: drm/kms: Add Kms::atomic_commit_tail Lyude Paul
2024-12-05 16:09   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-30 23:10 ` [WIP RFC v2 35/35] WIP: drm: Introduce RVKMS! Lyude Paul
2024-12-05 16:36   ` Daniel Almeida

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