From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE43F217F5C for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2025 12:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1739795251; cv=none; b=Z9sRH5/MxCtdcPjXZAV5/MTv9siohmHtPweymON6mW56E1cvUedoV7iwtCt73ZKg4pcucbRtm7UPntDtB1OE6eHrgZh3ZjiE56AWSzkM39Z0E9meS1LMzSebG9HO86ePqPtbeyW++TAp4aAp8GGnbtl8tUzP7s2vVqO711aggn4= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1739795251; c=relaxed/simple; bh=MIwYUtXnjoepjUfjvLW564dXH5Zc3Mu+jVREsCj6b3Y=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=oms8TWdkPX6JxLRk04OuXzz31DrKCzjlBvOctDq6oTNCHEjhFEjpzHlJ+NAzyxC2b9ZyY1KhrKEQVc7nbrC+yOEeJVSbll9QuChL6k826umd9P4wjyaxX3kJdK6Y4wupU+SBLPRdISRvFRsaYxwrmDoqwy5aSzu4Xi/4FF8ZNT4= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=pNqPa/Yk; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="pNqPa/Yk" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 408DEC4CED1; Mon, 17 Feb 2025 12:27:28 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1739795251; bh=MIwYUtXnjoepjUfjvLW564dXH5Zc3Mu+jVREsCj6b3Y=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=pNqPa/Yk+KlWdNEOwwuagNYFcRU8YiLAo+jDc5w/rEo1470xncMv4DECtOyNVNPUL dkRRmnnAV2vfOgukrS55kqH34XHuw/kSc+NO02ST2KoWC95XCMstzP0Zc2GD8YTcsL 7oYPf3AbkecKDt8uNnBP5bWibYc5wjsoJ3cR0M/tvGtKKFHkz7hvZW/yeikwd9Vl9r I8rkT+/q18cKYX/EZlQXqrCmHpHSeGqokZHlDkR/XI6/JHYXb4JxOuK+yKIcs/hjbt jm1aMnIbkeGXUSfbnZXCApDPk85lWCAJYWF0viD+8XDOU7l3ZlswK+fsmSWHz/c2z6 9RW/7oBkQLcUw== Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 13:27:25 +0100 From: Danilo Krummrich To: Steven Rostedt , Masami Hiramatsu Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Lyude Paul , Danilo Krummrich , dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, Dave Airlie , Simona Vetter , Karol Herbst Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] MAINTAINERS: Remove myself Message-ID: References: <20250215073753.1217002-1-kherbst@redhat.com> <20250215073753.1217002-2-kherbst@redhat.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20250215073753.1217002-2-kherbst@redhat.com> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 08:37:53AM +0100, Karol Herbst wrote: > I was pondering with myself for a while if I should just make it official > that I'm not really involved in the kernel community anymore, neither as a > reviewer, nor as a maintainer. > > Most of the time I simply excused myself with "if something urgent comes > up, I can chime in and help out". Lyude and Danilo are doing a wonderful > job and I've put all my trust into them. > > However, there is one thing I can't stand and it's hurting me the most. > I'm convinced, no, my core believe is, that inclusivity and respect, > working with others as equals, no power plays involved, is how we should > work together within the Free and Open Source community. > > I can understand maintainers needing to learn, being concerned on > technical points. Everybody deserves the time to understand and learn. It > is my true belief that most people are capable of change eventually. I > truly believe this community can change from within, however this doesn't > mean it's going to be a smooth process. > > The moment I made up my mind about this was reading the following words > written by a maintainer within the kernel community: > > "we are the thin blue line" > > This isn't okay. This isn't creating an inclusive environment. This isn't > okay with the current political situation especially in the US. A > maintainer speaking those words can't be kept. No matter how important > or critical or relevant they are. They need to be removed until they > learn. Learn what those words mean for a lot of marginalized people. Learn > about what horrors it evokes in their minds. > > I can't in good faith remain to be part of a project and its community > where those words are tolerated. Those words are not technical, they are > a political statement. Even if unintentionally, such words carry power, > they carry meanings one needs to be aware of. They do cause an immense > amount of harm. > > I wish the best of luck for everybody to continue to try to work from > within. You got my full support and I won't hold it against anybody trying > to improve the community, it's a thankless job, it's a lot of work. People > will continue to burn out. > > I got burned out enough by myself caring about the bits I maintained, but > eventually I had to realize my limits. The obligation I felt was eating me > from inside. It stopped being fun at some point and I reached a point > where I simply couldn't continue the work I was so motivated doing as I've > did in the early days. > > Please respect my wishes and put this statement as is into the tree. > Leaving anything out destroys its entire meaning. > > Respectfully > > Karol > > Signed-off-by: Karol Herbst @Steven, @Masami: Can I get an ACK for taking this through the drm-misc tree? (Not cutting any context, since you have not been copied on this one.) - Danilo > --- > MAINTAINERS | 2 -- > 1 file changed, 2 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS > index 25c86f47353de..ca31e57fa203c 100644 > --- a/MAINTAINERS > +++ b/MAINTAINERS > @@ -7431,7 +7431,6 @@ F: Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/panel/novatek,nt36672a.yaml > F: drivers/gpu/drm/panel/panel-novatek-nt36672a.c > > DRM DRIVER FOR NVIDIA GEFORCE/QUADRO GPUS > -M: Karol Herbst > M: Lyude Paul > M: Danilo Krummrich > L: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org > @@ -24062,7 +24061,6 @@ F: tools/testing/selftests/ftrace/ > TRACING MMIO ACCESSES (MMIOTRACE) > M: Steven Rostedt > M: Masami Hiramatsu > -R: Karol Herbst > R: Pekka Paalanen > L: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > L: nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org > -- > 2.48.1 >