From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 01/13] KVM: nSVM: Track the ASID per-VMCB
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:03:08 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8JOvMx6iLexT3pK@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250205182402.2147495-2-yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>
+Jim, for his input on VPIDs.
On Wed, Feb 05, 2025, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> The ASID is currently tracked per-vCPU, because the same ASID is used by
> L1 and L2. That ASID is flushed on every transition between L1 and L2.
>
> Track the ASID separately for each VMCB (similar to the
> asid_generation), giving L2 a separate ASID. This is in preparation for
> doing fine-grained TLB flushes on nested transitions instead of
> unconditional full flushes.
After having some time to think about this, rather than track ASIDs per VMCB, I
think we should converge on a single approach for nVMX (VPID) and nSVM (ASID).
Per **VM**, one VPID/ASID for L1, and one VPID/ASID for L2.
For SVM, the dynamic ASID crud is a holdover from KVM's support for CPUs that
don't support FLUSHBYASID, i.e. needed to purge the entire TLB in order to flush
guest mappings. FLUSHBYASID was added in 2010, and AFAIK has been supported by
all AMD CPUs since.
KVM already mostly keeps the same ASID, except for when a vCPU is migrated, in
which case KVM assigns a new ASID. I suspect that following VMX's lead and
simply doing a TLB flush in this situation would be an improvement for modern
CPUs, as it would flush the entries that need to be flushed, and not pollute the
TLBs with stale, unused entries.
Using a static per-VM ASID would also allow using broadcast invalidations[*],
would simplify the SVM code base, and I think/hope would allow us to move much
of the TLB flushing logic, e.g. for task migration, to common code.
For VPIDs, maybe it's because it's Friday afternoon, but for the life of me I
can't think of any reason why KVM needs to assign VPIDs per vCPU. Especially
since KVM is ridiculously conservative and flushes _all_ EPT/VPID contexts when
running a different vCPU on a pCPU (which I suspect we can trim down?).
Am I forgetting something?
[*] https://lore.kernel.org/all/Z8HdBg3wj8M7a4ts@google.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-01 0:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-05 18:23 [RFC PATCH 00/13] Optimize nSVM TLB flushes Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-05 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 01/13] KVM: nSVM: Track the ASID per-VMCB Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-01 0:03 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2025-03-03 17:51 ` Jim Mattson
2025-03-03 18:53 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-03-03 19:18 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-01 1:23 ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-03-03 19:31 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-05 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 02/13] KVM: nSVM: Rework svm_flush_tlb_asid() to operate on a given VMCB Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-01 1:29 ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-03-03 21:58 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-05 2:52 ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-02-05 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 03/13] KVM: nSVM: Split nested_svm_transition_tlb_flush() into entry/exit fns Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-01 1:34 ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-02-05 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 04/13] KVM: SVM: Introduce helpers for updating TLB_CONTROL Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-01 1:37 ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-02-05 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 05/13] KVM: x86/mmu: rename __kvm_mmu_invalidate_addr() Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-05 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 06/13] KVM: x86/mmu: Allow skipping the gva flush in kvm_mmu_invalidate_addr() Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-05 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 07/13] KVM: nSVM: Handle INVLPGA interception correctly Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-01 1:55 ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-03-03 22:05 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-05 2:54 ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-03-05 6:20 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-05 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 08/13] KVM: nSVM: Flush both L1 and L2 ASIDs on KVM_REQ_TLB_FLUSH Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-01 1:58 ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-03-03 22:06 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-05 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 09/13] KVM: nSVM: Handle nested TLB flush requests through TLB_CONTROL Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-05 21:45 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-01 2:06 ` Maxim Levitsky
[not found] ` <Z8Yovz0I3QLuq6VQ@google.com>
2025-03-05 2:57 ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-02-05 18:23 ` [RFC PATCH 10/13] KVM: nSVM: Flush the TLB if L1 changes L2's ASID Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-01 2:13 ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-02-05 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 11/13] KVM: nSVM: Do not reset TLB_CONTROL in VMCB02 on nested entry Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-01 2:17 ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-03-03 22:14 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-05 3:01 ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-03-05 6:34 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-05 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 12/13] KVM: nSVM: Service local TLB flushes before nested transitions Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-01 2:20 ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-03-03 22:18 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-05 3:03 ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-03-05 6:37 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-05 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 13/13] KVM: nSVM: Stop bombing the TLB on " Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-01 2:21 ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-03-03 22:21 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-03-05 3:14 ` Maxim Levitsky
2025-03-05 6:45 ` Yosry Ahmed
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