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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>
Cc: Bert Karwatzki <spasswolf@web.de>, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: commit 7ffb791423c7 breaks steam game
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 08:28:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8_mDOpoB5FloreP@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ce940e2a-632d-41be-9f13-e5b11d49b0db@nvidia.com>


* Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com> wrote:

> On 3/11/25 08:48, Balbir Singh wrote:
> > On 3/10/25 22:22, Bert Karwatzki wrote:
> >> Using linux next-20250307 to play the game stellaris via steam I noticed that
> >> loading the game gets sluggish with the progress bar getting stuck at 100%.
> >> In this situation mouse and keyboard inputs don't work properly anymore.
> >> Switching to a VT and killing stellaris somewhat fixes the situation though in
> >> one instance the touchpad did not work after that. I bisected this between
> >> v6.14-rc5 and next-20250307 and got this as the first bad commit:
> >>
> >> 7ffb791423c7c518269a9aad35039ef824a40adb is the first bad commit
> >> commit 7ffb791423c7c518269a9aad35039ef824a40adb (HEAD)
> >> Author: Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>
> >> Date:   Fri Feb 7 10:42:34 2025 +1100
> >>
> >>     x86/kaslr: Reduce KASLR entropy on most x86 systems
> >>
> >> Reverting commit 7ffb791423c7 in next-20250307 fixes the issue for me.
> >>
> > 
> > Thanks for the report! Could you also share the dmesg? Do you have any proprietary
> > modules loaded? Could you also share the output of /proc/iomem (captured as sudo)?
> > The lspci output is useful, lspci -vvv (captured with sudo) would help see where
> > the BAR regions are, specifically before and after the patch. Could you also share
> > the kernel config?
> > 
> > I assume your config has CONFIG_PCI_P2PDMA enabled. Did the system ever work with
> > nokaslr for you?
> > 
> > I am a little surprised that reducing the entropy causes these issues and having
> > a larger direct map causes these issues.
> 
> Hi, Bert
> 
> I tried to reproduce the issue at my end, but could not. I am new to Steam and my
> hardware/games are also different. From what I could gather, Steam is a 32 bit
> application that uses SDL. For my testing I used Xorg, not wayland
> 
> In addition to the above?
> 
> 1. Could you confirm if the mouse/keyboard work outside of Steam?
> 2. Does evtest /dev/input/<mouse device> show anything?
> 3. We could run the kernel with nokaslr and see if the issue reproduces?
> 4. As a test, we could try disabling CONFIG_PCI_P2PDMA in the kernel config,
> build boot and test, this has the same effect has not having the patch

[ Just a side note: disabling CONFIG_PCI_P2PDMA will have the same 
  effect *on KASRL* memory layout as reverting 7ffb791423c, but 
  disabling support for the P2P DMA PCI feature may have other side 
  effects. ]

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-11  7:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-10 11:22 commit 7ffb791423c7 breaks steam game Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-10 21:48 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-11  7:19   ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-11  7:28     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2025-03-11 11:15     ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-11 18:24       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-11 22:10         ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-11 23:09           ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-12  0:26             ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-12  2:23               ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-12  1:24             ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13  9:22               ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-13 10:40                 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13 10:53                   ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-13 11:47                     ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13 18:12                       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-13 21:54                         ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13 22:22                           ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-14  6:14                             ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-14 13:34                               ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-14 14:18                                 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-15  0:16                                   ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-15 17:40                                     ` Alex Deucher
2025-03-16 13:09                                       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-16 20:06                                         ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-17  9:13                                         ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-20  9:01                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-20 23:55                                             ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-21 10:24                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-21 11:05                                                 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-22  8:04                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-22  9:40                                                     ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-20 23:43                                           ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-21  4:55                                             ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-21 12:26                                               ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-22  2:06                                                 ` Balbir Singh
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-03-22 12:23 Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-23  6:51 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-24 11:23   ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-24 12:14     ` Christian König
2025-03-24 22:48       ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]         ` <938c2cbd-c47f-4925-ba82-94eef54d9ebc@amd.com>
2025-03-25 22:45           ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-25 23:21             ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-25 23:43               ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-26  1:50                 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-26 10:10                   ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-26 10:36                     ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-26 11:14                       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-27 10:53                       ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-27 22:03                         ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-24 21:43     ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-24 23:07 Bert Karwatzki
     [not found] ` <634e77d7-4f3c-4d1a-8aa3-1978896f9bf2@amd.com>
2025-03-25 10:25   ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-25 10:14 Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-25 12:23 ` Christian König
2025-03-26 22:00   ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-26 22:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-27  0:57       ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-27  0:58       ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-27 10:40       ` Ingo Molnar

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