From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
x86@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com,
Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
Nikunj A Dadhania <nikunj@amd.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Larry.Dewey@amd.com,
Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/sev: Make SEV_STATUS available via SYSFS
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 12:42:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8g4sU_dsZgY0PuS@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250305113155.GCZ8g2K1XEdgynTA9D@fat_crate.local>
* Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 12:26:13PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > It's *far* better to expose this via a targeted sysfs entry than
> > polluting /proc/cpuinfo with it that everyone and their dog is parsing
> > all the time ...
>
> Pasting what we're talking on IRC:
>
> - we don't want to expose a naked MSR u64 to userspace.
As long as it's architected values that won't change randomly, I don't
see the harm, and we expose raw feature bits all the time in sysfs.
User-space tooling would just unnecessarily parse and decode it anyway.
So if the convenience of tooling is the argument, the raw feature mask
exposed is the best option overall.
> Might as well use msr-tools
>
> - the backstory is, there are a bunch of tools which wanna know this so we
> need to agree on how to supply it to them
>
> - I think /proc/cpuinfo is the best option right now
So I disagree with that placement: /proc/cpuinfo is fundamentally
per-CPU, while sev_status is a machine-wide word in .data. Also,
something that is needed infrequently should not be put into the
frequently used /proc/cpuinfo file.
> - and then TDX can use the same thing too
>
> - we have a general need to expose what a confidential guest supports
>
> - a .../sev sysfs file clearly doesn't cut it because TDX doesn't have "sev"
> - it is the Intel version of a confidential guest
>
> - and I don't want to have "0xdeadbeef" in some sys file but "SEV SEV-ES TDX
> SecureTSC" and so on user-readable strings
So the /sys/devices/system/cpu/sev/ directory already exists and your
arguments already apply to that, don't they?
As to the hex numbers - do you prefer to put string versions of these
into the sysfs file:
MSR_AMD64_SEV_ENABLED
MSR_AMD64_SEV_ES_ENABLED
MSR_AMD64_SEV_SNP_ENABLED
MSR_AMD64_SNP_DEBUG_SWAP
MSR_AMD64_SNP_SECURE_TSC
MSR_AMD64_SNP_VTOM
?
Thanks,
Ingo
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Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-05 10:52 [PATCH] x86/sev: Make SEV_STATUS available via SYSFS Joerg Roedel
2025-03-05 11:11 ` [tip: x86/sev] " tip-bot2 for Joerg Roedel
2025-03-05 11:12 ` [PATCH] " Borislav Petkov
2025-03-05 11:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-05 11:31 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-05 11:35 ` Juergen Gross
2025-03-05 11:41 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-05 11:48 ` Jürgen Groß
2025-03-05 11:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-05 11:42 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2025-03-05 11:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-05 13:56 ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-05 15:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-05 16:37 ` Dave Hansen
2025-03-05 16:40 ` Dave Hansen
2025-03-05 16:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-05 17:09 ` Dave Hansen
2025-03-05 17:51 ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-05 20:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-06 8:01 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-03-06 8:38 ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-06 10:31 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-06 13:36 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-03-06 13:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-06 10:37 ` Alexey Gladkov (Intel)
2025-03-10 10:28 ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-10 11:02 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-10 12:46 ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-10 13:36 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-10 11:24 ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-10 12:28 ` Juergen Gross
2025-03-10 12:35 ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-10 12:49 ` Juergen Gross
2025-03-10 13:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-10 14:39 ` Tom Lendacky
2025-03-10 14:50 ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-10 15:11 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-10 15:33 ` Jürgen Groß
2025-03-10 15:41 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-10 15:50 ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-10 15:43 ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-10 15:52 ` Juergen Gross
2025-03-10 15:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-10 16:00 ` Juergen Gross
2025-03-10 16:06 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-10 16:23 ` Jürgen Groß
2025-03-10 16:05 ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-11 9:43 ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-11 10:22 ` Jürgen Groß
2025-03-11 11:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-11 11:14 ` Juergen Gross
2025-03-11 18:24 ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-11 18:40 ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-11 20:37 ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-12 7:19 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-03-12 8:23 ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-12 8:48 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-03-12 9:07 ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-12 10:59 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-03-12 11:44 ` Joerg Roedel
2025-03-11 18:13 ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-05 13:50 ` Joerg Roedel
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