From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>,
Xiao Liang <shaw.leon@gmail.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
"Jason A . Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
"Bae, Chang Seok" <chang.seok.bae@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2] x86/fpu: make kernel-mode FPU reliably usable in softirqs
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 18:37:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8iL1dY3o9OxQgBy@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b6a80f6d-8469-429d-b03a-8fa71a33046b@intel.com>
* Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> wrote:
> On 3/5/25 01:07, Ingo Molnar wrote:>> Alternatives considered:
> >> - Make kernel-mode FPU sections fully preemptible. This would require
> >> growing task_struct by another struct fpstate which is more than 2K.
> >
> > So that's something that will probably happen once the kernel is built
> > using APX anyway?
>
> I was expecting that building the kernel with APX would be very
> different than a kernel_fpu_begin(). We don't just need *one* more
> save area for APX registers: we need a stack, just like normal GPRs.
Yes - but my point is: with any APX build we'd probably be saving
FPU(-ish) registers at entry points, into a separate context area. If
that includes FPU registers then we'd not have to do
kernel_fpu_begin()/end().
In other words, we'd be doing something close to 'growing task_struct
by another struct fpstate', or so - regardless of whether it's in
task_struct or some sort of extended pt_regs. The kernel would also be
close to 'FPU-safe', i.e. there likely wouldn't be a need for
kernel_fpu_begin()/end().
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-05 17:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-04 20:49 [RFC PATCH v2] x86/fpu: make kernel-mode FPU reliably usable in softirqs Eric Biggers
2025-03-05 9:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-05 16:55 ` Dave Hansen
2025-03-05 17:37 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2025-03-05 18:04 ` Dave Hansen
2025-03-05 18:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-05 21:22 ` David Laight
2025-03-05 17:39 ` Eric Biggers
2025-03-05 18:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-05 20:30 ` Eric Biggers
2025-03-06 11:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-06 12:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-06 12:00 ` [tip: x86/fpu] x86/fpu: Improve crypto performance by making " tip-bot2 for Eric Biggers
2025-03-06 17:54 ` Eric Biggers
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