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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@gmail.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/asm: Use asm_inline() instead of asm() in __untagged_addr()
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 10:28:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z9frKMLYnhZI0MDD@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z9fk2NMBRHB9Eu5h@gmail.com>


* Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:

> But GCC cannot always do proper inlining decisions due to our 
> complicated ALTERNATIVE macro constructs confusing the GCC inliner:
> 
>   > > ALTERNATIVE macro that expands to several pseudo directives causes 
>   > > instruction length estimate to count more than 20 instructions.
>                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Note how the asm_inline() compiler feature was added by GCC at the 
> kernel community's request to address such issues. (!)
> 
> So for those reasons, in my book, eliminating a function call for 
> really simple single instruction inlines is an unconditional 
> improvement that doesn't require futile performance measurements - it 
> 'only' requires assembly level code generation analysis in the 
> changelog.

Note that at least in part this is a weakness of GCC: the compiler 
isn't looking at the asm() closely enough and the 20 instructions count 
vastly overestimates the true footprint of these statements.

Yet GCC is also giving us a tool: "asm __inline", which tells the 
compiler that this piece of asm() statement is small. A tool that was 
created at the request of the kernel community's complaints about this 
issue. :-/

asm_inline() is functionally similar to __force_inline - which we 
regularly apply if it has code generation benefits.

So I really don't see the harm in these patches - they have benefits in 
terms of GCC code generation quality, documentation and performance:

 - It documents small asm() statements by annotating them asm_inline().

 - It sometimes avoids function call overhead, improving performance.

And because single-function inlining changes are next to impossible to 
measure in practice in most cases, I'd suggest we skip the performance 
measurement requirement if the code generation advantages on a recent 
GCC version are unambiguous.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-17  9:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-14  9:30 [PATCH] x86/asm: Use asm_inline() instead of asm() in __untagged_addr() Uros Bizjak
2025-03-14 11:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-14 13:22   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-14 13:34     ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-17  9:01   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-17  9:28     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2025-03-17 18:34     ` H. Peter Anvin

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