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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	"Ahmed S . Darwish" <darwi@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] x86/cpu: Introduce <asm/cpuid/types.h> and <asm/cpuid/api.h> and clean them up
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 19:46:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z9m_kUqxqMPfU8Fl@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whAUHyXM29_9w_T26=15D1KZnuR3R+f4MT9f-C89oukvA@mail.gmail.com>


* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 at 11:04, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > plus we could implement the main CPUID call as:
> >
> >  static inline void native_cpuid(struct cpuid_regs *cregs)
> >  {
> >         /* ecx is often an input as well as an output. */
> >         asm volatile("cpuid"
> 
> So this really needs "asm inline" now. Because if it's not inlined, it
> generates horrific code.
> 
> Anyway, I agree with whoever (hpa?) said we should probably just
> unconditionally make all "asm" be "__asm__ __inline__" .

Yeah, it was hpa, and I was thinking about that approach today, and was 
about to write a "don't want to do such a big binary change without 
Linus's buy-in" reply ...

... and problem solved. ;-)

> And then *if* there are any places that want to out-line the asm (why 
> would you do that? At that point you'd be better off just writing 
> assembler!), they could use an explicit __asm__ instead with a 
> comment.
> 
> Sadly, I think doing just a mindless
> 
>     #define asm(...) __asm__ __inline__(__VA_ARGS__)
> 
> doesn't work, because we also have
> 
>         register void *tos asm("r11");
> 
> kind of patterns.
> 
> So first we'd have to change those to use __asm__(), and *then* we
> could do the "asm() is always __asm__ __inline__()" thing.

Yeah, I'll try this out. Should this be done for all architectures, or 
just for x86 for the time being?

I'm not sure an arch opt-in is worth it, it will only end up in the 
active architectures picking it, but none of the others, and we'll live 
with the duality forever.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-18 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-17 22:18 [PATCH 0/5] x86/cpu: Introduce <asm/cpuid/types.h> and <asm/cpuid/api.h> and clean them up Ingo Molnar
2025-03-17 22:18 ` [PATCH 1/5] x86/cpuid: Refactor <asm/cpuid.h> Ingo Molnar
2025-03-18 12:00   ` [tip: x86/cpu] " tip-bot2 for Ahmed S. Darwish
2025-03-19 11:03   ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Ahmed S. Darwish
2025-03-17 22:18 ` [PATCH 2/5] x86/cpuid: Clean up <asm/cpuid/types.h> Ingo Molnar
2025-03-18 12:00   ` [tip: x86/cpu] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-03-19 11:03   ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-03-17 22:18 ` [PATCH 3/5] x86/cpuid: Clean up <asm/cpuid/api.h> Ingo Molnar
2025-03-18 12:00   ` [tip: x86/cpu] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-03-19 11:03   ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-03-17 22:18 ` [PATCH 4/5] x86/cpuid: Standardize on u32 in <asm/cpuid/api.h> Ingo Molnar
2025-03-18  5:59   ` Xin Li
2025-03-18 12:00   ` [tip: x86/cpu] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-03-19 11:03   ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-03-17 22:18 ` [PATCH 5/5] x86/cpuid: Use u32 in instead of uint32_t " Ingo Molnar
2025-03-18  6:01   ` Xin Li
2025-03-18  8:34     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-18  9:37       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-18 11:53         ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-18 12:15           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-18 18:20             ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-19  8:08               ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-03-19 20:16                 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-18 12:00   ` [tip: x86/cpu] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-03-19 11:03   ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2025-03-18 14:05 ` [PATCH 0/5] x86/cpu: Introduce <asm/cpuid/types.h> and <asm/cpuid/api.h> and clean them up H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-18 18:04   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-18 18:33     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-18 18:46       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2025-03-18 20:11         ` [PATCH] compiler/gcc: Make asm() templates asm __inline__() by default Ingo Molnar
2025-03-18 22:07           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-19  4:57           ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-19 22:34             ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-20  8:21               ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-20  8:59                 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-20 10:30                   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-20 11:58                     ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-19  3:30     ` [PATCH 0/5] x86/cpu: Introduce <asm/cpuid/types.h> and <asm/cpuid/api.h> and clean them up H. Peter Anvin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-03-17 22:30 mingo
2025-03-17 22:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-17 23:00   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-18 11:39 ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2025-03-18 11:55   ` Ingo Molnar

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