From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>
Cc: Bert Karwatzki <spasswolf@web.de>,
Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com>, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: commit 7ffb791423c7 breaks steam game
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 10:01:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z9vZYIbXOz2wF59j@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b5d80ef2-fd5a-41cc-9184-6c82226c330a@nvidia.com>
* Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com> wrote:
> On 3/17/25 00:09, Bert Karwatzki wrote:
> > This is related to the admgpu.gttsize. My laptop has the maximum amount
> > of memory (64G) and usually gttsize is half of main memory size. I just
> > tested with cmdline="nokaslr amdgpi.gttsize=2048" and the problem does
> > not occur. So I did some more testing with varying gttsize and got this
> > for the built-in GPU
> >
> > 08:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
> > Cezanne [Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Vega Mobile Series] (rev c5)
> >
> > (nokaslr is always enabeld)
> > gttssize input behaviour
> > 2048 GOOD
> > 2064 GOOD
> > 2080 SEMIBAD (i.e. noticeable input lag but not as bad as below)
> > 3072 BAD
> > 4096 BAD
> > 8192 BAD
> > 16384 BAD
> >
> > As the build-in GPU has ~512 VRAM there seems to be problems when gttsize >
> > 4*VRAM so I tested for the discrete GPU with 8G of VRAM
> > gttsize input behaviour
> > 49152 GOOD
> > 64000 GOOD
> >
> > So for the discrete GPU increasing gttsize does no reproduce the bug.
> >
>
> Very interesting, I am not a GTT expert, but with these experiments do you
> find anything interesting in
>
> /sys/kernel/debug/x86/pat_memtype_list?
>
> It's weird that you don't see any issues in Xorg (Xfce), just the games.
> May be we should get help from the amd-gfx experts to further diagnose/debug
> the interaction of nokaslr with the game.
So basically your commit:
7ffb791423c7 ("x86/kaslr: Reduce KASLR entropy on most x86 systems")
inflicts part of the effects of a 'nokaslr' boot command line option,
and triggers the regression due to that?
Or is there some other cause?
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-20 9:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-10 11:22 commit 7ffb791423c7 breaks steam game Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-10 21:48 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-11 7:19 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-11 7:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-11 11:15 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-11 18:24 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-11 22:10 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-11 23:09 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-12 0:26 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-12 2:23 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-12 1:24 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13 9:22 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-13 10:40 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13 10:53 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-13 11:47 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13 18:12 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-13 21:54 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-13 22:22 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-14 6:14 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-14 13:34 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-14 14:18 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-15 0:16 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-15 17:40 ` Alex Deucher
2025-03-16 13:09 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-16 20:06 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-17 9:13 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-20 9:01 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2025-03-20 23:55 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-21 10:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-21 11:05 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-22 8:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-22 9:40 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-20 23:43 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-21 4:55 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-21 12:26 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-22 2:06 ` Balbir Singh
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-03-22 12:23 Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-23 6:51 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-24 11:23 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-24 12:14 ` Christian König
2025-03-24 22:48 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <938c2cbd-c47f-4925-ba82-94eef54d9ebc@amd.com>
2025-03-25 22:45 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-25 23:21 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-25 23:43 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-26 1:50 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-26 10:10 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-26 10:36 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-26 11:14 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-27 10:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-27 22:03 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-24 21:43 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-24 23:07 Bert Karwatzki
[not found] ` <634e77d7-4f3c-4d1a-8aa3-1978896f9bf2@amd.com>
2025-03-25 10:25 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-25 10:14 Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-25 12:23 ` Christian König
2025-03-26 22:00 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-26 22:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-27 0:57 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-27 0:58 ` Bert Karwatzki
2025-03-27 10:40 ` Ingo Molnar
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