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From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	RCU <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Oleksiy Avramchenko <oleksiy.avramchenko@sony.com>,
	Philipp Reisner <philipp.reisner@linbit.com>,
	Bryan Tan <bryantan@vmware.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Bob Pearson <rpearsonhpe@gmail.com>,
	Ariel Levkovich <lariel@nvidia.com>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Julian Anastasov <ja@ssi.bg>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] Rename k[v]free_rcu() single argument to k[v]free_rcu_mightsleep()
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 22:14:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZBI1GhEepro6sufK@pc636> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZBIzihsxOZwuSoYZ@pc636>

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 10:07:22PM +0100, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 04:28:40PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 15:57:02 -0400
> > Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > > I was going to suggest "kvfree_rcu_might_synchronize()" but that's just
> > > > getting ridiculous.  
> > > 
> > > No, synchronize() is incorrect. The code really can sleep for other
> > > reasons like memory allocation. It is not that simple of an
> > > implementation as one may imagine. mightsleep is really the correct
> > > wording IMHO.
> > > 
> > > > Still, I will replace that code back to a kfree() and rcu_synchonize() than
> > > > to let that other name get in.  
> > > 
> > > I think it is too late for that for now, we already have conversions
> > > going into the other subsystems, that means we'll have to redo all
> > > that over again (even if it sounded like a good idea, which it is
> > > not).
> > > 
> > > I would rather you just did: "#define kvfree_rcu_tracing
> > > #kvfree_rcu_mightsleep", or something like that, if it is really a
> > > problem. ;-)
> > > 
> > > Also you are really the first person I know of who has a problem with that name.
> > 
> > I guess you didn't read Jens's reply.
> > 
> > The main issue I have with this, is that "might_sleep" is just an
> > implementation issue. It has *nothing* to do with what the call is about.
> > It is only about freeing something with RCU. It has nothing to do with
> > sleeping. I don't use it because it might sleep. I use it to free something.
> > 
> > If you don't like kvfree_rcu_synchronization() then call it
> > kvfree_rcu_headless() and note that currently it can sleep. Because in
> > the future, if we come up with an implementation where we it doesn't sleep,
> > then we don't need to go and rename all the users in the future.
> > 
> > See where I have the problem with the name "might_sleep"?
> > 
> In that sense there is no need in renaming it. The current name of
> single argument is kvfree_rcu(ptr). It is documented that it can sleep.
> 
> According to its name it is clear that it is headless since there
> is no a second argument.
> 
Forgot to add. I agree with you that currently it can sleep but it
does not mean that a future stays the same, thus there might be an
extra need in renaming again.

--
Uladzislau Rezki

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-15 21:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-01 15:08 [PATCH 00/13] Rename k[v]free_rcu() single argument to k[v]free_rcu_mightsleep() Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-02-01 15:08 ` [PATCH 01/13] rcu/kvfree: Add kvfree_rcu_mightsleep() and kfree_rcu_mightsleep() Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-02-02  7:54   ` Zhuo, Qiuxu
2023-02-02 15:07     ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-01 15:08 ` [PATCH 02/13] drbd: Rename kvfree_rcu() to kvfree_rcu_mightsleep() Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-03-09 13:39   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-02-01 15:08 ` [PATCH 03/13] misc: vmw_vmci: " Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-03-09 13:41   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-09 14:36   ` Vishnu Dasa
2023-02-01 15:08 ` [PATCH 04/13] tracing: " Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-03-09 13:45   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-15 22:36     ` Steven Rostedt
2023-03-15 23:19       ` Jens Axboe
2023-03-16  0:37         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-16  2:23           ` Steven Rostedt
2023-03-16  3:44             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-16  4:16               ` Joel Fernandes
2023-03-16 12:14                 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-03-16 14:56                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-16  8:16       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-16 13:56         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-03-16 15:05           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-17  9:05             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-16 15:12           ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-16 17:54       ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-16 17:57       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-16 18:01         ` Joel Fernandes
2023-03-18 16:11           ` Steven Rostedt
2023-03-22 23:10             ` Joel Fernandes
2023-02-01 15:08 ` [PATCH 05/13] lib/test_vmalloc.c: " Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-02-01 15:08 ` [PATCH 06/13] net/sysctl: " Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-03-09 13:48   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-09 13:49   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-02-01 15:08 ` [PATCH 07/13] RDMA/rxe: Rename kfree_rcu() to kfree_rcu_mightsleep() Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-03-09 13:48   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-09 14:13     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-10  0:55       ` Joel Fernandes
2023-03-13 19:43         ` Bob Pearson
2023-03-15 11:50           ` Joel Fernandes
2023-03-15 18:07             ` Bob Pearson
2023-03-14  6:31       ` Zhu Yanjun
2023-02-01 15:08 ` [PATCH 08/13] net/mlx5: " Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-03-09 13:47   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-02-01 15:08 ` [PATCH 09/13] ext4/super: " Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-03-09 13:43   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-02-01 19:12 ` [PATCH 00/13] Rename k[v]free_rcu() single argument to k[v]free_rcu_mightsleep() Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-02 15:54   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-02-02 16:35     ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-23 12:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-02-23 14:29   ` Zhuo, Qiuxu
2023-02-23 15:54     ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-23 16:21       ` Julian Anastasov
2023-02-23 17:14         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-23 17:36           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-02-23 18:21             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-23 14:57 ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-23 18:31   ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-23 19:36     ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-23 19:47       ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-23 19:57         ` Jens Axboe
2023-03-15 19:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-03-15 19:16   ` Jens Axboe
2023-03-15 19:25     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-15 19:34       ` Steven Rostedt
2023-03-15 19:57         ` Joel Fernandes
2023-03-15 20:28           ` Steven Rostedt
2023-03-15 21:07             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-15 21:14               ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2023-03-15 22:08             ` Joel Fernandes
2023-03-15 22:26               ` Steven Rostedt
2023-03-16  2:13                 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-03-16  2:50                   ` Steven Rostedt
2023-03-16  5:01                     ` Joel Fernandes
2023-03-16  1:25               ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-03-16  2:15                 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-03-16  2:52                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-16  0:42         ` Theodore Ts'o

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