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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE / RFC] Periodic Upstream Call for KVM
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 00:07:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZGwDs1qHcl8PX+m2@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230522072508.GA326851@chaop.bj.intel.com>

On Mon, May 22, 2023, Chao Peng wrote:
> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 04:10:27PM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> >   PT   (6am)
> >   MT   (7am)
> >   CT   (8am)
> >   ET   (9am)
> >   WET  (2pm)
> >   CET  (3pm)
> >   EET  (4pm)
> >   EST  (5pm)
> >   CST  (9pm)
> >   NZST (1am)
> 
> This looks good, 9pm is not too late for PRC people.
> 
> > 
> > The obvious alternative would be to invert the schedule and have the sync be in
> > the evening/night for Pacific Time, but to get 6am for ARM folks, we end up with:
> > 
> >   PT   (10pm)
> >   MT   (11pm)
> >   CT   (12pm)
> >   ET   (1am)
> >   WET  (6am)
> >   CET  (7am)
> >   EET  (8am)
> >   EST  (9am)
> >   CST  (1pm)
> >   NZST (5pm)
> > 
> > which is quite unreasonable for pretty much everyone based in the US.  Earlier
> > than 6am for WET is likewise unreasonable and will result in people not attending.
> > 9pm for China is also unreasonable, but I hope that it's not completely ridiculous
> > and is doable enough that people can at least attend on an as-needed basis.  Sorry
> > Kai, as the sole representative from New Zealand, you get hosed :-(
> > 
> > Wednesday because holidays and (short) vacations most often land at the beginning
> > and end of the week.
> > 
> > 60 minutes because I'm not waking up at dawn for anything less, and anything
> > more will likely have dimishing returns, especially for folks on the edges of
> > the time zone table.
> > 
> > Lastly, the big unknown is which video communication software to use.  My default
> > is obviously Google Meet, but I've been told that Meet is unusable in some
> > countries. :-/  My only requirements (beyond basic, obvious functionality) are
> > that (a) there's a web interface (no install required) and that (b) the calls can
> > be recorded.
> 
> Google Meet should work for me, but may not for every (PRC) people.
> Besides no installation, if no registration would be even better ;)
> Maybe we can run with Google Meet for the first session(s) if you
> havn't get one in your mind, it's not too hard to switch to alternative
> at a later time right?

Ya, switching should be no problem.  Let's try Google Meet and go from there.
Thanks much for the input!

> > To kick things off, I am leaning toward a "launch" date of May 24th (Pacific),
> > with KVM guest private mem (a.k.a. UPM) as the first topic.
> 
> Thanks for driving this, yes for UPM I would definitely join.

I'm going to push out the inagaural date one week until May 31st, partly to give
more time for this to get widely disseminated, but mostly because I need to write
down my various thoughts on where to go with UPM, and I don't think I'll get that
done before Wednesday.  That'll also give me time to setup a public calendar so
that people can get reminders and whatnot.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-23  0:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-12 23:10 [ANNOUNCE / RFC] Periodic Upstream Call for KVM Sean Christopherson
2023-05-18 19:50 ` Michael Roth
2023-05-22  7:25 ` Chao Peng
2023-05-23  0:07   ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2023-05-23  2:19     ` Chao Peng

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