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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Cc: Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 28/34] perf pmus: Split pmus list into core and other
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2023 08:58:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZILbubiZPNg2M/JY@FVFF77S0Q05N> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP-5=fUPYjG2J-bxcBf8h1JW34FGQwEbSo4uDbbi+GTGmvGMtg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 10:35:02PM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 10:30 PM Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 09-Jun-23 10:10 AM, Ian Rogers wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 9:01 PM Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Ian,
> > >
> > > Hi Ravi,
> > >
> > >> On 27-May-23 12:52 PM, Ian Rogers wrote:
> > >>> Split the pmus list into core and other. This will later allow for
> > >>> the core and other pmus to be populated separately.
> > >>>
> > >>> Signed-off-by: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
> > >>> Reviewed-by: Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
> > >>> ---
> > >>>  tools/perf/util/pmus.c | 52 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------------
> > >>>  1 file changed, 38 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-)
> > >>>
> > >>> diff --git a/tools/perf/util/pmus.c b/tools/perf/util/pmus.c
> > >>> index 58ff7937e9b7..4ef4fecd335f 100644
> > >>> --- a/tools/perf/util/pmus.c
> > >>> +++ b/tools/perf/util/pmus.c
> > >>> @@ -12,13 +12,19 @@
> > >>>  #include "pmu.h"
> > >>>  #include "print-events.h"
> > >>>
> > >>> -static LIST_HEAD(pmus);
> > >>> +static LIST_HEAD(core_pmus);
> > >>> +static LIST_HEAD(other_pmus);
> > >>
> > >> AMD ibs_fetch// and ibs_op// PMUs are per SMT-thread and are independent of
> > >> core hw pmu. I wonder where does IBS fit. Currently it's part of other_pmus.
> > >> So, is it safe to assume that other_pmus are not just uncore pmus? In that
> > >> case shall we add a comment here?
> > >
> > > I'm a fan of comments. The code has landed in perf-tools-next:
> > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/acme/linux.git/tree/tools/perf/util/pmus.c?h=perf-tools-next
> > > Do you have any suggestions on wording? I've had limited success
> > > adding glossary terms, for example, offcore vs uncore:
> > > https://perf.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Glossary#Offcore
> > > I think offcore is a more interconnect related term, but I'd prefer
> > > not to be inventing the definitions. I'd like it if we could be less
> > > ambiguous in the code and provide useful information on the wiki, so
> > > help appreciated :-)
> >
> > Does this look good?
> >
> > /*
> >  * core_pmus:  A PMU belongs to core_pmus if it's name is "cpu" or it's sysfs
> >  *             directory contains "cpus" file. All PMUs belonging to core_pmus
> >  *             must have pmu->is_core=1. If there are more than one PMUs in
> >  *             this list, perf interprets it as a heterogeneous platform.
> 
> 
> Looks good but a nit here. It is heterogeneous from point-of-view of
> PMUs, there are ARM systems where they are heterogenous with big and
> little cores but they have a single homogeneous PMU driver. The perf
> tool will treat them as homogeneous.

For the sake of the comment: there's a little more nuance here.

The intent is that each distinct micro-architecture has its own PMU instance,
but some people write their device trees incorrectly with a single pmu node
rather than separate pmu nodes per micro-architecture.

That should be viewed as a FW bug, even if we have to deal with it here.

Thanks,
Mark.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-09  8:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-27  7:21 [PATCH v5 00/34] PMU refactoring and improvements Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 01/34] perf cpumap: Add internal nr and cpu accessors Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 02/34] perf cpumap: Add equal function Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 03/34] libperf cpumap: Add "any CPU"/dummy test function Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 04/34] perf pmu: Detect ARM and hybrid PMUs with sysfs Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 05/34] perf pmu: Add is_core to pmu Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 06/34] perf evsel: Add is_pmu_core inorder to interpret own_cpus Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 07/34] perf pmu: Add CPU map for "cpu" PMUs Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 08/34] perf evlist: Propagate user CPU maps intersecting core PMU maps Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 09/34] perf evlist: Allow has_user_cpus to be set on hybrid Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 10/34] perf target: Remove unused hybrid value Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 11/34] perf tools: Warn if no user requested CPUs match PMU's CPUs Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 12/34] perf evlist: Remove evlist__warn_hybrid_group Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 13/34] perf evlist: Remove __evlist__add_default Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 14/34] perf evlist: Reduce scope of evlist__has_hybrid Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 15/34] perf pmu: Remove perf_pmu__hybrid_mounted Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 16/34] perf pmu: Rewrite perf_pmu__has_hybrid to avoid list Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 17/34] perf x86: Iterate hybrid PMUs as core PMUs Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 18/34] perf topology: Avoid hybrid list for hybrid topology Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 19/34] perf evsel: Compute is_hybrid from PMU being core Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 20/34] perf header: Avoid hybrid PMU list in write_pmu_caps Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 21/34] perf metrics: Remove perf_pmu__is_hybrid use Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 22/34] perf stat: Avoid hybrid PMU list Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:21 ` [PATCH v5 23/34] perf mem: " Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:22 ` [PATCH v5 24/34] perf pmu: Remove perf_pmu__hybrid_pmus list Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:22 ` [PATCH v5 25/34] perf pmus: Prefer perf_pmu__scan over perf_pmus__for_each_pmu Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:22 ` [PATCH v5 26/34] perf x86 mem: minor refactor to is_mem_loads_aux_event Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:22 ` [PATCH v5 27/34] perf pmu: Separate pmu and pmus Ian Rogers
2023-06-02  5:29   ` [PATCH] perf test amd: Fix build failure with amd-ibs-via-core-pmu.c -- Was: " Ravi Bangoria
2023-06-02  6:42     ` Ian Rogers
2023-06-03  4:46       ` [PATCH v2] perf test amd: Fix build failure with amd-ibs-via-core-pmu.c Ravi Bangoria
2023-06-05 14:27         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-06-06  3:12           ` Ravi Bangoria
2023-06-06  4:24           ` Stephen Rothwell
2023-06-07  0:56             ` Stephen Rothwell
2023-05-27  7:22 ` [PATCH v5 28/34] perf pmus: Split pmus list into core and other Ian Rogers
2023-06-09  3:59   ` Ravi Bangoria
2023-06-09  4:40     ` Ian Rogers
2023-06-09  5:30       ` Ravi Bangoria
2023-06-09  5:35         ` Ian Rogers
2023-06-09  5:55           ` Ravi Bangoria
2023-06-09  6:00             ` Ian Rogers
2023-06-09  6:02               ` Ravi Bangoria
2023-06-09  7:58           ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2023-06-11  3:55             ` Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:22 ` [PATCH v5 29/34] perf pmus: Allow just core PMU scanning Ian Rogers
2023-06-09  6:12   ` Ravi Bangoria
2023-05-27  7:22 ` [PATCH v5 30/34] perf pmus: Avoid repeated sysfs scanning Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:22 ` [PATCH v5 31/34] perf pmus: Ensure all PMUs are read for find_by_type Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:22 ` [PATCH v5 32/34] perf pmus: Add function to return count of core PMUs Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:22 ` [PATCH v5 33/34] perf pmus: Remove perf_pmus__has_hybrid Ian Rogers
2023-05-27  7:22 ` [PATCH v5 34/34] perf pmu: Remove is_pmu_hybrid Ian Rogers

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