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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] iommufd: Add nesting infrastructure
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 09:36:17 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZJwpQV6oBBsIAtHD@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB5276BA9BBAFB8BCC8B339AFA8C24A@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 02:47:02AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 12:01 AM
> > 
> > On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 06:02:13AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > > > From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 1:29 AM
> > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure whether the MSI region needs a special MSI type or
> > > > > just a general RESV_DIRECT type for 1:1 mapping, though.
> > > >
> > > > I don't quite get this part. Isn't MSI having IOMMU_RESV_MSI
> > > > and IOMMU_RESV_SW_MSI? Or does it juset mean we should report
> > > > the iommu_resv_type along with reserved regions in new ioctl?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Currently those are iommu internal types. When defining the new
> > > ioctl we need think about what are necessary presenting to the user.
> > >
> > > Probably just a list of reserved regions plus a flag to mark which
> > > one is SW_MSI? Except SW_MSI all other reserved region types
> > > just need the user to reserve them w/o knowing more detail.
> > 
> > I think I prefer the idea we just import the reserved regions from a
> > devid and do not expose any of this detail to userspace.
> > 
> > Kernel can make only the SW_MSI a mandatory cut out when the S2 is
> > attached.
> > 
> 
> I'm confused.
> 
> The VMM needs to know reserved regions per dev_id and report them
> to the guest.
> 
> And we have aligned on that reserved regions (except SW_MSI) should
> not be automatically added to S2 in nesting case. Then the VMM cannot
> rely on IOAS_IOVA_RANGES to identify the reserved regions.

We also said we need a way to load the reserved regions to create an
identity compatible version of the HWPT

So we have a model where the VMM will want to load in regions beyond
the currently attached device needs

> So there needs a new interface for the user to discover reserved regions
> per dev_id, within which the SW_MSI region should be marked out so
> identity mapping can be installed properly for it in S1.
> 
> Did I misunderstand your point in previous discussion?

This is another discussion, if the vmm needs this then we probably
need a new API to get it.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-28 12:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-11 14:38 [PATCH v2 00/11] iommufd: Add nesting infrastructure Yi Liu
2023-05-11 14:38 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] iommu: Add new iommu op to create domains owned by userspace Yi Liu
2023-05-19  8:47   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-05-19 18:45     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-05-24  5:02       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-05-24  5:23         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-05-24  7:48           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-05-25  1:41             ` Nicolin Chen
2023-06-06 14:08               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-06 19:43                 ` Nicolin Chen
2023-06-07  0:14                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-11 14:38 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] iommu: Add nested domain support Yi Liu
2023-05-19  8:51   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-05-19 18:49     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-05-24  5:03       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-05-24  5:28         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-05-11 14:38 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] iommufd/hw_pagetable: Use domain_alloc_user op for domain allocation Yi Liu
2023-05-19  8:56   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-05-19 18:57     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-05-24  5:04       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-05-11 14:38 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] iommufd: Pass parent hwpt and user_data to iommufd_hw_pagetable_alloc() Yi Liu
2023-05-19  9:06   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-05-19 19:09     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-05-24  5:11       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-05-24  5:31         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-05-19  9:34   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-05-19 19:12     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-05-11 14:38 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] iommufd/hw_pagetable: Do not populate user-managed hw_pagetables Yi Liu
2023-05-11 14:38 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] iommufd: IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC allocation with user data Yi Liu
2023-05-17  3:08   ` Liu, Jingqi
2023-05-19 19:34     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-05-19  9:41   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-05-19 19:48     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-05-24  5:16       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-05-24  5:40         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-05-24  7:55           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-05-11 14:38 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] iommufd: Add IOMMU_HWPT_INVALIDATE Yi Liu
2023-05-11 14:38 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] iommufd/selftest: Add domain_alloc_user() support in iommu mock Yi Liu
2023-05-11 14:38 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC with user data Yi Liu
2023-05-11 14:38 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_TEST_OP_MD_CHECK_IOTLB test op Yi Liu
2023-05-11 14:38 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for IOMMU_HWPT_INVALIDATE ioctl Yi Liu
2023-05-19  9:56 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] iommufd: Add nesting infrastructure Tian, Kevin
2023-05-19 11:49   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-24  3:48     ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-06 14:18       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-16  2:43         ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-19 12:37           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-20  1:43             ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-20 12:47               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-21  6:02                 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-21  7:09                   ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-21 12:04                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-26  6:32                     ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-21 17:13                   ` Nicolin Chen
2023-06-26  6:42                     ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-26 13:05                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-26 17:28                       ` Nicolin Chen
2023-06-27  6:02                         ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-27 16:01                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-28  2:47                             ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-28 12:36                               ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-06-29  2:16                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-21  8:29                 ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-06-21 12:07                   ` Jason Gunthorpe

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