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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
Cc: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH printk v2 2/5] printk: Add NMI safety to console_flush_on_panic() and console_unblank()
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 11:41:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZLEYR-eaZTWXO2Ld@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230714040049.GA81525@google.com>

On Fri 2023-07-14 13:00:49, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (23/07/13 16:43), Petr Mladek wrote:
> > 
> > Simple removal of console_trylock() in console_flush_on_panic() would
> > cause that other CPUs might still be able to take it and race.
> > The problem is avoided by checking panic_in_progress() in console_lock()
> > and console_trylock(). They will never succeed on non-panic CPUs.
> > 
> 
> In theory, we also can have non-panic CPU in console_flush_all(),
> which should let panic CPU to take over the next time it checks
> abandon_console_lock_in_panic() (other_cpu_in_panic() after 5/5),
> but it may not happen immediately. I wonder if we somehow can/want
> to "wait" in console_flush_on_panic() for non-panic CPU handover?

Good point. It might actually be any console_lock() owner,
including printk() on other CPU.

I think that we might need to add some wait() as we did in the last
attempt, see the commit b87f02307d3cfbda76852 ("printk: Wait for
the global console lock when the system is going down").

Anyway, it will be more important after introducing the kthreads.
There is a non-trivial chance that they would block the lock.
They might be busy when handling a message printed right before
the panic() was called. At least, this is what I saw in the last
attempt to introduce the kthreads.

But maybe, it will be somehow hidden in the new atomic lock.
It might be passed to a printk context with a higher priority
and it uses some wait internally, see the waiting in the patch
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230302195618.156940-7-john.ogness@linutronix.de/

Anyway, this patch does not make it worse. It just ignores the
potential console_lock owner in console_flush_on_panic() another
way.

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-14  9:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-10 13:45 [PATCH printk v2 0/5] various cleanups John Ogness
2023-07-10 13:45 ` [PATCH printk v2 1/5] kdb: do not assume write() callback available John Ogness
2023-07-11  0:25   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2023-07-11  8:23   ` Daniel Thompson
2023-07-11  8:58     ` John Ogness
2023-07-11  9:01       ` Daniel Thompson
2023-07-10 13:45 ` [PATCH printk v2 2/5] printk: Add NMI safety to console_flush_on_panic() and console_unblank() John Ogness
2023-07-11 15:43   ` Petr Mladek
2023-07-11 16:07     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2023-07-12 21:11     ` John Ogness
2023-07-13 14:43       ` Petr Mladek
2023-07-14  4:00         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2023-07-14  9:41           ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2023-07-10 13:45 ` [PATCH printk v2 3/5] printk: Consolidate console deferred printing John Ogness
2023-07-11 15:17   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2023-07-13 14:51   ` Petr Mladek
2023-07-10 13:45 ` [PATCH printk v2 4/5] printk: Add per-console suspended state John Ogness
2023-07-11 15:08   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2023-07-11 15:23     ` John Ogness
2023-07-11 15:26       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2023-07-11 15:30   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2023-07-13 15:53   ` Petr Mladek
2023-07-10 13:45 ` [PATCH printk v2 5/5] printk: Rename abandon_console_lock_in_panic() to other_cpu_in_panic() John Ogness
2023-07-11  0:22   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2023-07-13 15:55   ` Petr Mladek

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