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From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	"alex.williamson@redhat.com" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	"joro@8bytes.org" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>,
	"robin.murphy@arm.com" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"shuah@kernel.org" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mjrosato@linux.ibm.com" <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>,
	"farman@linux.ibm.com" <farman@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 2/4] iommufd: Add iommufd_access_replace() API
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 21:43:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZMNHarPX7yA+VTdT@Asurada-Nvidia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB527691E9B421682C7B88AFD68C06A@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 03:45:39AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
> > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 3:04 AM
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 09:03:01AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 07:59:11PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > >
> > > > I just realized that either my v8 or your version calls unmap()
> > > > first at the entire cur_ioas. So, there seems to be no point in
> > > > doing that fallback re-add routine since the cur_ioas isn't the
> > > > same, which I don't feel quite right...
> > >
> > > The point is to restore the access back to how it should be on failure
> > > so future use of the accesss still does the right thing.
> > >
> > > We already have built into this a certain non-atomicity for mdevs,
> > > they can see a pin failure during replace if they race an access
> > > during this unmap window. This is similar to the real HW iommu's
> > > without atomic replace.
> >
> > I was concerned about, after the replace, mdev losing all the
> > mappings due to the unmap() call, which means the fallback is
> > not really a status quo. Do you mean that they could pin those
> > lost mappings back?
> 
> None of mdev drivers does that.
> 
> but we need think about the actual usage. I don't think the user
> can request ioas change w/o actually reconfiguring the mdev
> device. Presumably the latter could lead to reconstructure of pinned
> pages.

I can understand that the user should reconfigure the IOAS on
success. Yet, should we expect it to reconfigure on a failure
also?

Thanks!
Nic

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-28  4:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-24 19:47 [PATCH v8 0/4] cover-letter: Add IO page table replacement support Nicolin Chen
2023-07-24 19:47 ` [PATCH v8 1/4] vfio: Do not allow !ops->dma_unmap in vfio_pin/unpin_pages() Nicolin Chen
2023-07-26 17:33   ` Alex Williamson
2023-07-26 17:38     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-24 19:47 ` [PATCH v8 2/4] iommufd: Add iommufd_access_replace() API Nicolin Chen
2023-07-26 14:30   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-26 20:50     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-07-26 23:36       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-27  2:59         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-07-27  7:30           ` Nicolin Chen
2023-07-27 12:03           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-27 19:04             ` Nicolin Chen
2023-07-28  3:45               ` Tian, Kevin
2023-07-28  4:43                 ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2023-07-28  6:20                   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-07-28 12:28                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-28 12:27               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-24 19:47 ` [PATCH v8 3/4] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_TEST_OP_ACCESS_REPLACE_IOAS coverage Nicolin Chen
2023-07-26 17:04   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-24 19:47 ` [PATCH v8 4/4] vfio: Support IO page table replacement Nicolin Chen
2023-07-26 17:04   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-07-26 17:34   ` Alex Williamson

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