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From: Nicolas Schier <nicolas@fjasle.eu>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
Cc: Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>,
	Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: kbuild: explain handling optional dependencies
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 21:48:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZQISGujwlH00B8KJ@fjasle.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230913113801.1901152-1-arnd@kernel.org>

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On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 01:37:52PM +0200 Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
> 
> This problem frequently comes up in randconfig testing, with
> drivers failing to link because of a dependency on an optional
> feature.
> 
> The Kconfig language for this is very confusing, so try to
> document it in "Kconfig hints" section.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
> ---

Hi Arnd,

thanks for documenting this!  Three questions below:

>  Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.rst | 26 +++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 26 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.rst b/Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.rst
> index 858ed5d80defe..89dea587a469a 100644
> --- a/Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.rst
> @@ -573,6 +573,32 @@ above, leading to:
>  	bool "Support for foo hardware"
>  	depends on ARCH_FOO_VENDOR || COMPILE_TEST
>  
> +Optional dependencies
> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> +
> +Some drivers are able to optionally use a feature from another module
> +or build cleanly with that module disabled, but cause a link failure
> +when trying to use that loadable module from a built-in driver.
> +
> +The most common way to express this optional dependency in Kconfig logic
> +uses the slighly counterintuitive

slighly -> slightly

For better RST compliance: could you explicitly start the code block e.g. by
appending '::' as in "... counterintuitive::"?

> +
> +  config FOO
> +	bool "Support for foo hardware"
> +	depends on BAR || !BAR

are you sure that this is enough?  While testing, I needed to explicitly use
=y|=n:

    depends on BAR=y || BAR=n

to prevent FOO to be selectable iff BAR=m.

> +
> +This means that there is either a dependency on BAR that disallows
> +the combination of FOO=y with BAR=m, or BAR is completely disabled.

For me, this sentence is hard to parse (but I am not a native speaker); what
about something like this:

This means that FOO can only be enabled, iff BAR is either built-in or
completely disabled.  If BAR is built as a module, FOO cannot be enabled.

Kind regards,
Nicolas

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-09-13 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-13 11:37 [PATCH] Documentation: kbuild: explain handling optional dependencies Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-13 14:25 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-09-13 16:11 ` Sakari Ailus
2023-09-13 19:48 ` Nicolas Schier [this message]
2023-09-13 19:55   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-13 20:34     ` Nicolas Schier
2023-09-13 21:16       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-14  3:51         ` Nicolas Schier
2023-09-14  5:05           ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-14  3:56         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-09-14 17:07       ` Masahiro Yamada
2023-09-14 13:42 ` Jani Nikula
2023-09-14 14:57   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-14 15:56     ` Jani Nikula
2023-09-14 17:23     ` Masahiro Yamada
2023-09-15  5:26       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-15  7:34         ` Jani Nikula
2023-09-15  7:44           ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-15 15:48             ` Randy Dunlap

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