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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	vineethrp@gmail.com, Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] tick/nohz: Don't shutdown the lowres tick from itself
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 11:29:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZQLShD1ujiuqLiJI@lothringen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEXW_YTwzK9jkUdMUPY0t++yYvwSHx1EZiPX6NiSt7hPhHZbpA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 09:17:21PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 6:44 AM Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > In lowres dynticks mode, just like in highres dynticks mode, when there
> > is no tick to program in the future, the tick eventually gets
> > deactivated either:
> >
> > * From the idle loop if in idle mode.
> > * From the IRQ exit if in full dynticks mode.
> >
> > Therefore there is no need to deactivate it from the tick itself. This
> > just just brings more overhead in the idle tick path for no reason.
> >
> > Fixes: 62c1256d5447 ("timers/nohz: Switch to ONESHOT_STOPPED in the low-res handler when the tick is stopped")
> > Signed-off-by: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
> 
> If on some weird hardware, say  ts->next_tick = KTIME_MAX but a
> spurious timer interrupt went off and tick_nohz_handler() did get
> called (yeah weird hypothetical situation), then in
> tick_nohz_stop_tick() we might early return from:
> 
> /* Skip reprogram of event if its not changed */
> if (ts->tick_stopped && (expires == ts->next_tick))
> 
> without no "eventual" reprogramming.
> 
> Maybe we should also reprogram with KTIME_MAX in such a situation?
> Then we can get rid of it from tick_nohz_handler() for the common case
> as you are doing.
> 
> So for weird hardware, with this patch we are not doing an extra
> tick_program_event(KTIME_MAX, 1); like Nick was doing. That makes me a
> tad bit nervous.

So when a tick happens, ts->next_tick is reset to 0 (in tick_sched_handle()).
This way if a timer interrupt fires too early, and that includes also timer
interrupts when next_tick is KTIME_MAX, the timer is always reprogrammed upon
the next idle loop iteration. So this shouldn't happen.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-14  9:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-12 10:44 [PATCH 0/5] tick/nohz: cleanups and fixes v2 Frederic Weisbecker
2023-09-12 10:44 ` [PATCH 1/5] tick/nohz: Rename the tick handlers to more self-explanatory names Frederic Weisbecker
2023-09-27 15:01   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Frederic Weisbecker
2023-09-12 10:44 ` [PATCH 2/5] tick/nohz: Update obsolete comments Frederic Weisbecker
2023-09-27 15:01   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Frederic Weisbecker
2023-09-28  9:07     ` [PATCH] tick/nohz: Update comments some more Ingo Molnar
2023-09-28  9:11       ` Ingo Molnar
2023-09-29 10:57       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-09-29 21:09         ` Ingo Molnar
2023-09-29 22:05           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-09-29 21:12       ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2023-09-12 10:44 ` [PATCH 3/5] tick/nohz: Don't shutdown the lowres tick from itself Frederic Weisbecker
2023-09-14  1:17   ` Joel Fernandes
2023-09-14  9:29     ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2023-09-14 13:26       ` Joel Fernandes
2023-09-27 15:01   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Frederic Weisbecker
2023-09-12 10:44 ` [PATCH 4/5] tick/nohz: remove unused tick_nohz_idle_stop_tick_protected() Frederic Weisbecker
2023-09-27 15:01   ` [tip: timers/core] tick/nohz: Remove " tip-bot2 for Xueshi Hu
2023-09-12 10:44 ` [PATCH 5/5] timers: Tag (hr)timer softirq as hotplug safe Frederic Weisbecker
2023-09-16  1:38   ` Joel Fernandes
2023-09-18 17:04     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-27 15:01   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Frederic Weisbecker

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