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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Guilherme G. Piccoli" <gpiccoli@igalia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH printk v2 09/11] panic: Add atomic write enforcement to oops
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 17:45:32 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZQsFjN5euQgt5CI7@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871qetsz8j.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>

On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 04:26:12PM +0206, John Ogness wrote:
> On 2023-09-20, Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 01:14:54AM +0206, John Ogness wrote:

...

> >> +	if (atomic_read(&oops_cpu) == smp_processor_id()) {
> >> +		oops_nesting--;
> >> +		if (oops_nesting == 0) {
> >> +			atomic_set(&oops_cpu, -1);
> >
> > Between read and set the variable can change, can't it?
> 
> CPU migration is disabled. @oops_cpu contains the CPU ID of the only CPU
> that is printing the oops. (Perhaps the variable should be called
> "oops_printing_cpu"?)
> 
> If this matches smp_processor_id(), then the current CPU is the only one
> that is allowed to change it back to -1. So no, if the first condition
> is true, it cannot change before atomic_set(). And if the second
> condition is true, this is the only CPU+context that is allowed to
> change it back to -1;
> 
> > If not, why this variable is atomic then? Or, why it's not a problem?
> > If the latter is the case, perhaps a comment to explain this?
> 
> If not atomic, it will be a data race since one CPU might be changing
> @oops_cpu and another is reading it. For type "int" such a data race
> would be fine because it doesn't matter which side of the race the
> reader was on, both values will not match the current CPU ID.
> 
> The reason that I didn't implement it using cmpxchg(),
> data_race(READ_ONCE()), and WRITE_ONCE() is because I once learned that
> you should never mix cmpxchg() with READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE() because
> there are architectures that do not support cmpxchg() as an atomic
> instruction. The answer was always: "use atomic_t instead... that is
> what it is for".
> 
> But AFAICT for this case it would be fine because obviously cmpxchg()
> will not race with itself. And successfully reading a matching CPU ID
> means there cannot be any cmpxchg() in progress. And writing only occurs
> after seeing a matching CPU ID.
> 
> So I can change it from atomic_t to int. Although I do feel like that
> might require explanation about why the data race is safe.

Either way a comment is needed, but I think the usage of atomic above
is a bit confusing as you see I immediately rose the concern.

> Or perhaps it is enough just to have something like this:
> 
> /**
>  * oops_printing_cpu - The ID of the CPU responsible for printing the
>  *                     OOPS message(s) to the consoles.
>  *
>  * This is atomic_t because multiple CPUs can read this variable
>  * simultaneously when exiting OOPS while another CPU can be
>  * modifying this variable to begin or end its printing duties.
>  */
> static atomic_t oops_printing_cpu = ATOMIC_INIT(-1);

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-20 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-19 23:08 [PATCH printk v2 00/11] wire up nbcon atomic printing John Ogness
2023-09-19 23:08 ` [PATCH printk v2 01/11] printk: Make console_is_usable() available to nbcon John Ogness
2023-09-22  8:33   ` Petr Mladek
2023-09-19 23:08 ` [PATCH printk v2 02/11] printk: Let console_is_usable() handle nbcon John Ogness
2023-09-22  8:37   ` Petr Mladek
2023-09-19 23:08 ` [PATCH printk v2 03/11] printk: Add @flags argument for console_is_usable() John Ogness
2023-09-22  8:41   ` Petr Mladek
2023-09-19 23:08 ` [PATCH printk v2 04/11] printk: nbcon: Provide functions to mark atomic write sections John Ogness
2023-09-22  9:33   ` Petr Mladek
2023-09-25  9:25     ` John Ogness
2023-09-25 16:04       ` Petr Mladek
2023-10-05 12:51         ` John Ogness
2023-10-06 12:51           ` panic context: was: " Petr Mladek
2023-10-06 12:53           ` Petr Mladek
2023-10-08 10:13             ` John Ogness
2023-10-09 15:32               ` Petr Mladek
2023-10-10 16:02                 ` John Ogness
2023-10-16  8:58               ` Dave Young
2023-10-16 10:09                 ` John Ogness
2023-10-06 15:52           ` Petr Mladek
2023-09-19 23:08 ` [PATCH printk v2 05/11] printk: nbcon: Provide function for atomic flushing John Ogness
2023-09-22 12:32   ` Petr Mladek
2023-09-25 11:11     ` John Ogness
2023-09-19 23:08 ` [PATCH printk v2 06/11] printk: nbcon: Wire up nbcon console " John Ogness
2023-09-22 17:41   ` Petr Mladek
2023-09-25 13:37     ` John Ogness
2023-09-26 12:14       ` Petr Mladek
2023-10-05 13:59         ` John Ogness
2023-09-19 23:08 ` [PATCH printk v2 07/11] printk: nbcon: Wire up nbcon into console_flush_all() John Ogness
2023-09-26 11:34   ` Petr Mladek
2023-09-19 23:08 ` [PATCH printk v2 08/11] panic: Add atomic write enforcement to warn/panic John Ogness
2023-09-27 12:02   ` Petr Mladek
2023-09-19 23:08 ` [PATCH printk v2 09/11] panic: Add atomic write enforcement to oops John Ogness
2023-09-19 23:36   ` John Ogness
2023-09-20 13:28   ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-09-20 14:20     ` John Ogness
2023-09-20 14:45       ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2023-09-27 13:15   ` Petr Mladek
2023-09-19 23:08 ` [PATCH printk v2 10/11] rcu: Add atomic write enforcement for rcu stalls John Ogness
2023-09-27 15:00   ` Petr Mladek
2023-09-19 23:08 ` [PATCH printk v2 11/11] lockdep: Add atomic write enforcement for lockdep splats John Ogness
2023-09-29  8:31   ` Petr Mladek

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