From: Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>,
Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
Daniel Lustig <dlustig@nvidia.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH memory-model] docs: memory-barriers: Add note on compiler transformation and address deps
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 16:24:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZSAYplkpVlmcL1bb@andrea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ceaeba0a-fc30-4635-802a-668c859a58b2@paulmck-laptop>
On Thu, Oct 05, 2023 at 09:53:12AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> The compiler has the ability to cause misordering by destroying
> address-dependency barriers if comparison operations are used. Add a
> note about this to memory-barriers.txt in the beginning of both the
> historical address-dependency sections and point to rcu-dereference.rst
> for more information.
>
> Signed-off-by: Joel Fernandes (Google) <joel@joelfernandes.org>
> Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
Reviewed-by: Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>
Thanks,
Andrea
> diff --git a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> index 06e14efd8662..d414e145f912 100644
> --- a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> @@ -396,6 +396,10 @@ Memory barriers come in four basic varieties:
>
>
> (2) Address-dependency barriers (historical).
> + [!] This section is marked as HISTORICAL: For more up-to-date
> + information, including how compiler transformations related to pointer
> + comparisons can sometimes cause problems, see
> + Documentation/RCU/rcu_dereference.rst.
>
> An address-dependency barrier is a weaker form of read barrier. In the
> case where two loads are performed such that the second depends on the
> @@ -556,6 +560,9 @@ There are certain things that the Linux kernel memory barriers do not guarantee:
>
> ADDRESS-DEPENDENCY BARRIERS (HISTORICAL)
> ----------------------------------------
> +[!] This section is marked as HISTORICAL: For more up-to-date information,
> +including how compiler transformations related to pointer comparisons can
> +sometimes cause problems, see Documentation/RCU/rcu_dereference.rst.
>
> As of v4.15 of the Linux kernel, an smp_mb() was added to READ_ONCE() for
> DEC Alpha, which means that about the only people who need to pay attention
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-06 14:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-05 16:53 [PATCH memory-model] docs: memory-barriers: Add note on compiler transformation and address deps Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-06 14:24 ` Andrea Parri [this message]
2023-10-06 15:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-06 16:39 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2023-10-18 10:11 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2023-10-19 16:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-20 9:29 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2023-10-20 13:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-20 15:24 ` Akira Yokosawa
2023-10-20 16:13 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2023-10-20 17:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-21 13:45 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2023-10-21 15:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-20 16:00 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2023-10-20 18:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-21 13:36 ` Jonas Oberhauser
2023-10-21 15:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-21 16:03 ` Alan Stern
2023-10-21 20:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
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