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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
Cc: Yang Weijiang <weijiang.yang@intel.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dave.hansen@intel.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, chao.gao@intel.com,
	rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com, john.allen@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 09/25] KVM: x86: Rework cpuid_get_supported_xcr0() to operate on vCPU data
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2023 07:41:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZUJjs2F-vD1-cZS4@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <96c30a78fa95071e87045b7293c2cf796d4182a0.camel@redhat.com>

On Tue, Oct 31, 2023, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> On Thu, 2023-09-14 at 02:33 -0400, Yang Weijiang wrote:
> > From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
> > 
> > Rework and rename cpuid_get_supported_xcr0() to explicitly operate on vCPU
> > state, i.e. on a vCPU's CPUID state.  Prior to commit 275a87244ec8 ("KVM:
> > x86: Don't adjust guest's CPUID.0x12.1 (allowed SGX enclave XFRM)"), KVM
> > incorrectly fudged guest CPUID at runtime,
> Can you explain how commit 275a87244ec8 relates to this patch?
>
> > which in turn necessitated massaging the incoming CPUID state for
> > KVM_SET_CPUID{2} so as not to run afoul of kvm_cpuid_check_equal().
> 
> Can you link the commit that added this 'massaging' and explain on how this
> relates to this patch?

It's commit 275a87244ec8, which is right above.  I think the missing part is an
explicit call out that the massaging used cpuid_get_supported_xcr0() with the
incoming "struct kvm_cpuid_entry2", i.e. without a "struct kvm_vcpu".

> Can you explain what is the problem that this patch is trying to solve?

Is this better?

--
Rework and rename cpuid_get_supported_xcr0() to explicitly operate on vCPU
state, i.e. on a vCPU's CPUID state, now that the only usage of the helper
is to retrieve a vCPU's already-set CPUID.

Prior to commit 275a87244ec8 ("KVM: x86: Don't adjust guest's CPUID.0x12.1
(allowed SGX enclave XFRM)"), KVM incorrectly fudged guest CPUID at
runtime, which in turn necessitated massaging the incoming CPUID state for
KVM_SET_CPUID{2} so as not to run afoul of kvm_cpuid_check_equal().  I.e.
KVM also invoked cpuid_get_supported_xcr0() with the incoming CPUID state,
and thus without an explicit vCPU object.
--

> Is it really allowed in x86 spec to have different supported mask of XCR0 bits
> on different CPUs (assuming all CPUs of the same type)?

Yes, nothing in the SDM explicitly states that all cores in have identical feature
sets.  And "assuming all CPUs of the same type" isn't really a valid constraint
because it's very doable to put different SKUs into a multi-socket system.

Intel even (somewhat inadvertantly) kinda sorta shipped such CPUs, as Alder Lake
P-cores support AVX512 but E-cores do not, and IIRC early (pre-production?) BIOS
didn't disable AVX512 on the P-Cores, i.e. software could observe cores with and
without AVX512.  That quickly got fixed because it confused software, but until
Intel squashed AVX512 entirely with a microcode update, disabling E-Cores in BIOS
would effectively enable AVX512 on the remaining P-Cores.

And it's not XCR0-related, but PMUs on Alder Lake (and all Intel hybrid CPUs) are
truly heterogenous.  It's a mess for virtualization, but concrete proof that there
are no architectural guarantees regarding homogeneity of feature sets.

> If true, does KVM supports it?

Yes.  Whether or not that's a good thing is definitely debatle, bug KVM's ABI for
a very long time has allowed userspace to expose whatever it wants via KVM_SET_CPUID.

Getting (guest) software to play nice is an entirely different matter, but exposing
heterogenous vCPUs isn't an architectural violation.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-01 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-14  6:33 [PATCH v6 00/25] Enable CET Virtualization Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 01/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Manually check and add XFEATURE_CET_USER xstate bit Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14 22:39   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-15  2:32     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-15 16:35       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-18  7:16         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:43   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01  9:19     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 02/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Fix guest fpstate allocation size calculation Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14 22:45   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-15  2:45     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-15 16:35       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-10-21  0:39   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-24  8:50     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-24 16:32       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-25 13:49         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:43         ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 03/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Add CET supervisor mode state support Yang Weijiang
2023-09-15  0:06   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-15  6:30     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:44       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 04/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce kernel dynamic xfeature set Yang Weijiang
2023-09-15  0:24   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-15  6:42     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:44       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 05/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Remove kernel dynamic xfeatures from kernel default_features Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14 16:22   ` Dave Hansen
2023-09-15  1:52     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:44     ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 06/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Opt-in kernel dynamic bits when calculate guest xstate size Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14 17:40   ` Dave Hansen
2023-09-15  2:22     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-24 17:07       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-25 14:49         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-26 17:24           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-26 22:06             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-10-31 17:45             ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 14:16               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:20                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-03 14:33                   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-07 18:04                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-14  9:13                       ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 07/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Tweak guest fpstate to support kernel dynamic xfeatures Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:45   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 08/25] x86/fpu/xstate: WARN if normal fpstate contains " Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:45   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 09/25] KVM: x86: Rework cpuid_get_supported_xcr0() to operate on vCPU data Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:46   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 14:41     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2023-11-02 18:25       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 10/25] KVM: x86: Add kvm_msr_{read,write}() helpers Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:47   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 19:32     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:26       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-15  9:00         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 11/25] KVM: x86: Report XSS as to-be-saved if there are supported features Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:47   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 19:18     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:31       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 12/25] KVM: x86: Refresh CPUID on write to guest MSR_IA32_XSS Yang Weijiang
2023-10-08  5:54   ` Chao Gao
2023-10-10  0:49     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 17:20     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-15  7:18   ` Binbin Wu
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 13/25] KVM: x86: Initialize kvm_caps.supported_xss Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 14/25] KVM: x86: Load guest FPU state when access XSAVE-managed MSRs Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 18:05     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:31       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-03  8:46       ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-03 14:02         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 15/25] KVM: x86: Add fault checks for guest CR4.CET setting Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 16/25] KVM: x86: Report KVM supported CET MSRs as to-be-saved Yang Weijiang
2023-10-08  6:19   ` Chao Gao
2023-10-10  0:54     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:52   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 17/25] KVM: VMX: Introduce CET VMCS fields and control bits Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:52   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 18/25] KVM: x86: Use KVM-governed feature framework to track "SHSTK/IBT enabled" Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:54   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 15:46     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:35       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-04  0:07         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-07 18:05           ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 19/25] KVM: VMX: Emulate read and write to CET MSRs Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:55   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 16:31     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:38       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-02 23:58         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-07 18:12           ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-07 18:39             ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-03  8:18       ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-03 22:26         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 20/25] KVM: x86: Save and reload SSP to/from SMRAM Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:55   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 21/25] KVM: VMX: Set up interception for CET MSRs Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:56   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 22/25] KVM: VMX: Set host constant supervisor states to VMCS fields Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:56   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 23/25] KVM: x86: Enable CET virtualization for VMX and advertise to userspace Yang Weijiang
2023-09-24 13:38   ` kernel test robot
2023-09-25  0:26     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:56   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 22:14     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 24/25] KVM: nVMX: Introduce new VMX_BASIC bit for event error_code delivery to L1 Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:57   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01  4:21   ` Chao Gao
2023-11-15  8:31     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 25/25] KVM: nVMX: Enable CET support for nested guest Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:57   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01  2:09   ` Chao Gao
2023-11-01  9:22     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-01  9:54     ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-15  8:56       ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-15  8:23     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-25  0:31 ` [PATCH v6 00/25] Enable CET Virtualization Yang, Weijiang

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