From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DCFC07CB1 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230007AbjKYV23 (ORCPT ); Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:28:29 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:42626 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229456AbjKYV21 (ORCPT ); Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:28:27 -0500 Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 059F3A8 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:28:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from letrec.thunk.org ([50.233.158.190]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 3APLSSc5012771 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:28:29 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mit.edu; s=outgoing; t=1700947709; bh=OXQ/kkY1gBTgy+MW+6mAZuijFYVhpY+CzVvVMyOK0yc=; h=Date:From:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PATxOBnqfFChA383KP+Hiz9l+tS3ZJw7PfD3pU7IMjyhkVAo0MSevqq0pUJSZYo4N y7+0qvgVb+2+sqOkBR31dEiyS6pVF/YVMQZA5tXbzgvHshVJ+QoYoMph3RAalnukMS gMw6jgf2dA4ROujYzmkUoxTYODx1D+OQEVECtiY8fmCvMJ39IN3WNCZpAviUH+QW9e fDle9eA6KgnynsLlLZXI1morjDd13+VQwQfshOBuh0GtKUsq985PJ0fPxqr2A1pWCr yZoorN3Lblmx05wkZVaPd0h0F7DgjarJlWagBm1MRF21nrtBUVMjlD+eJt+uDsqQhG f72WFv3YGQVhQ== Received: by letrec.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id A21648C019B; Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:28:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2023 16:28:27 -0500 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: Aaron Gray Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: Can we please have a major fork of Linux into a modern and legacy versions ? Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 08:30:01PM +0000, Aaron Gray wrote: > I hear Linux is going to drop a lot of legacy devices including the > ones dropped already. I am wondering if we can please have a major > fork of Linux into a modern and legacy versions ? > > With a consolidation and security updates to the older version. If someone wants to take an LTS kernel and volunteer to maintain it, including cherrypicking security updates, and making sure that fixes in core subsystems don't cause some of these legacy drivers to break, anyone can create such a fork. These things don't come for free though, and if you can't find a set of volunteers to do the work to maintain such a fork, maybe that's a good hint as to why such a fork hasn't happened. Of course, if you are willing to provide all of that work yourself, that would be great! Cheers, - Ted