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From: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>
To: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
Cc: Yang Weijiang <weijiang.yang@intel.com>, <seanjc@google.com>,
	<pbonzini@redhat.com>, <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	<kvm@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<peterz@infradead.org>, <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	<john.allen@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 22/26] KVM: VMX: Set up interception for CET MSRs
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 14:33:15 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZWl+K55yUaCLCtqw@chao-email> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <393d82243b7f44731439717be82b20fbeda45c77.camel@redhat.com>

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 07:44:45PM +0200, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
>On Fri, 2023-11-24 at 00:53 -0500, Yang Weijiang wrote:
>> Enable/disable CET MSRs interception per associated feature configuration.
>> Shadow Stack feature requires all CET MSRs passed through to guest to make
>> it supported in user and supervisor mode while IBT feature only depends on
>> MSR_IA32_{U,S}_CETS_CET to enable user and supervisor IBT.
>> 
>> Note, this MSR design introduced an architectural limitation of SHSTK and
>> IBT control for guest, i.e., when SHSTK is exposed, IBT is also available
>> to guest from architectual perspective since IBT relies on subset of SHSTK
>> relevant MSRs.
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Yang Weijiang <weijiang.yang@intel.com>
>> ---
>>  arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c | 42 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  1 file changed, 42 insertions(+)
>> 
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
>> index 554f665e59c3..e484333eddb0 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
>> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
>> @@ -699,6 +699,10 @@ static bool is_valid_passthrough_msr(u32 msr)
>>  	case MSR_LBR_CORE_TO ... MSR_LBR_CORE_TO + 8:
>>  		/* LBR MSRs. These are handled in vmx_update_intercept_for_lbr_msrs() */
>>  		return true;
>> +	case MSR_IA32_U_CET:
>> +	case MSR_IA32_S_CET:
>> +	case MSR_IA32_PL0_SSP ... MSR_IA32_INT_SSP_TAB:
>> +		return true;
>>  	}
>>  
>>  	r = possible_passthrough_msr_slot(msr) != -ENOENT;
>> @@ -7766,6 +7770,42 @@ static void update_intel_pt_cfg(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
>>  		vmx->pt_desc.ctl_bitmask &= ~(0xfULL << (32 + i * 4));
>>  }
>>  
>> +static void vmx_update_intercept_for_cet_msr(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
>> +{
>> +	bool incpt;
>> +
>> +	if (kvm_cpu_cap_has(X86_FEATURE_SHSTK)) {
>> +		incpt = !guest_cpuid_has(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_SHSTK);
>> +
>> +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_U_CET,
>> +					  MSR_TYPE_RW, incpt);
>> +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_S_CET,
>> +					  MSR_TYPE_RW, incpt);
>> +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_PL0_SSP,
>> +					  MSR_TYPE_RW, incpt);
>> +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_PL1_SSP,
>> +					  MSR_TYPE_RW, incpt);
>> +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_PL2_SSP,
>> +					  MSR_TYPE_RW, incpt);
>> +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_PL3_SSP,
>> +					  MSR_TYPE_RW, incpt);
>> +		if (guest_cpuid_has(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_LM))
>> +			vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_INT_SSP_TAB,
>> +						  MSR_TYPE_RW, incpt);
>> +		if (!incpt)
>> +			return;
>> +	}
>> +
>> +	if (kvm_cpu_cap_has(X86_FEATURE_IBT)) {
>> +		incpt = !guest_cpuid_has(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_IBT);
>> +
>> +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_U_CET,
>> +					  MSR_TYPE_RW, incpt);
>> +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_S_CET,
>> +					  MSR_TYPE_RW, incpt);
>> +	}
>> +}
>> +
>>  static void vmx_vcpu_after_set_cpuid(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
>>  {
>>  	struct vcpu_vmx *vmx = to_vmx(vcpu);
>> @@ -7843,6 +7883,8 @@ static void vmx_vcpu_after_set_cpuid(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
>>  
>>  	/* Refresh #PF interception to account for MAXPHYADDR changes. */
>>  	vmx_update_exception_bitmap(vcpu);
>> +
>> +	vmx_update_intercept_for_cet_msr(vcpu);
>>  }
>>  
>>  static u64 vmx_get_perf_capabilities(void)
>
>My review feedback from the previous patch still applies as well,
>
>I still think that we should either try a best effort approach to plug
>this virtualization hole, or we at least should fail guest creation
>if the virtualization hole is present as I said:
>

>"Another, much simpler option is to fail the guest creation if the shadow stack + indirect branch tracking
>state differs between host and the guest, unless both are disabled in the guest.
>(in essence don't let the guest be created if (2) or (3) happen)"

Enforcing a "none" or "all" policy is a temporary solution. in future, if some
reserved bits in S/U_CET MSRs are extended for new features, there will be:

	platform A supports SS + IBT
	platform B supports SS + IBT + new feature

Guests running on B inevitably have the same virtualization hole. and if kvm
continues enforcing the policy on B, then VM migration from A to B would be
impossible.

To me, intercepting S/U_CET MSR and CET_S/U xsave components is intricate and
yields marginal benefits. And I also doubt any reasonable OS implementation
would depend on #GP of WRMSR to S/U_CET MSRs for functionalities. So, I vote
to leave the patch as-is.

>
>Please at least tell me what do you think about this.

>
>Best regards,
>	Maxim Levitsky
>
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-01  6:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-24  5:53 [PATCH v7 00/26] Enable CET Virtualization Yang Weijiang
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 01/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Always preserve non-user xfeatures/flags in __state_perm Yang Weijiang
2023-11-30 17:24   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 02/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Refine CET user xstate bit enabling Yang Weijiang
2023-11-24  9:40   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-27  2:55     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-28  1:31     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-11-28  8:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-28  1:31   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-11-28  7:52     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-30 17:26   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-01  6:51     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-12-05  9:53       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-06  1:03         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-12-06 15:57           ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-08 14:57             ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-12-08 15:15               ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-13  9:30                 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-12-13 13:31                   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-13 17:01                   ` Chang S. Bae
2023-12-14  3:12                     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 03/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Add CET supervisor mode state support Yang Weijiang
2023-11-24  9:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-27  4:06     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-28  1:34   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-11-30 17:27   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-01  7:01     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-12-05  9:53       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 04/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce XFEATURE_MASK_KERNEL_DYNAMIC xfeature set Yang Weijiang
2023-11-28  1:46   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-11-28  8:00     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-30 17:33   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-01  7:49     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-12-05  9:55       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-06  3:00         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-12-06 16:11           ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-08 15:57             ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 05/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce fpu_guest_cfg for guest FPU configuration Yang Weijiang
2023-11-28 14:58   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-11-29 14:12     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-29 17:08       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-11-30 13:28         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-30 17:29     ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-30 18:02       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-11-30 17:29   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 06/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Create guest fpstate with guest specific config Yang Weijiang
2023-11-28 15:19   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-11-29 14:16     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-30 17:36   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-01  8:36     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-12-05  9:57       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 07/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Warn if kernel dynamic xfeatures detected in normal fpstate Yang Weijiang
2023-11-28 15:25   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-11-29 14:18     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 08/26] KVM: x86: Rework cpuid_get_supported_xcr0() to operate on vCPU data Yang Weijiang
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 09/26] KVM: x86: Rename kvm_{g,s}et_msr() to menifest emulation operations Yang Weijiang
2023-11-30 17:36   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 10/26] KVM: x86: Refine xsave-managed guest register/MSR reset handling Yang Weijiang
2023-11-30 17:36   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 11/26] KVM: x86: Add kvm_msr_{read,write}() helpers Yang Weijiang
2023-11-30 17:37   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 12/26] KVM: x86: Report XSS as to-be-saved if there are supported features Yang Weijiang
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 13/26] KVM: x86: Refresh CPUID on write to guest MSR_IA32_XSS Yang Weijiang
2023-11-30 17:37   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 14/26] KVM: x86: Initialize kvm_caps.supported_xss Yang Weijiang
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 15/26] KVM: x86: Load guest FPU state when access XSAVE-managed MSRs Yang Weijiang
2023-11-30 17:38   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 16/26] KVM: x86: Add fault checks for guest CR4.CET setting Yang Weijiang
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 17/26] KVM: x86: Report KVM supported CET MSRs as to-be-saved Yang Weijiang
2023-11-30 17:40   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 18/26] KVM: VMX: Introduce CET VMCS fields and control bits Yang Weijiang
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 19/26] KVM: x86: Use KVM-governed feature framework to track "SHSTK/IBT enabled" Yang Weijiang
2023-11-30 17:40   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 20/26] KVM: VMX: Emulate read and write to CET MSRs Yang Weijiang
2023-11-30 17:41   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 21/26] KVM: x86: Save and reload SSP to/from SMRAM Yang Weijiang
2023-11-30 17:42   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-01  2:23     ` Chao Gao
2023-12-04  0:45       ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-12-05 10:02         ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-01  8:55     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 22/26] KVM: VMX: Set up interception for CET MSRs Yang Weijiang
2023-11-30 17:44   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-01  6:33     ` Chao Gao [this message]
2023-12-05 10:04       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-01  9:45     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-12-05 10:07       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 23/26] KVM: VMX: Set host constant supervisor states to VMCS fields Yang Weijiang
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 24/26] KVM: x86: Enable CET virtualization for VMX and advertise to userspace Yang Weijiang
2023-11-30 17:46   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-01 16:15     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-12-05 10:07       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 25/26] KVM: nVMX: Introduce new VMX_BASIC bit for event error_code delivery to L1 Yang Weijiang
2023-11-24  5:53 ` [PATCH v7 26/26] KVM: nVMX: Enable CET support for nested guest Yang Weijiang
2023-11-30 17:53   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-04  8:50     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-12-05 10:12       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-06  9:22         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-12-06 17:24           ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-08 15:15             ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-12-08 15:22               ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-12  8:56                 ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-12-12 11:09                   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-15  2:29 ` [PATCH v7 00/26] Enable CET Virtualization Yang, Weijiang

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