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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: Zefan Li <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mrunal Patel <mpatel@redhat.com>,
	Ryan Phillips <rphillips@redhat.com>,
	Brent Rowsell <browsell@redhat.com>,
	Peter Hunt <pehunt@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH-cgroup 2/2] cgroup/cpuset: Include isolated cpuset CPUs in cpu_is_isolated() check
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 07:06:53 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZWoSrfztmprcdkpO@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b6f88157-cf5e-4c7b-99f3-1944b4e7ebde@redhat.com>

Hello,

On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 11:01:04AM -0500, Waiman Long wrote:
...
> > > Depending on how the cpumask operators are implemented, we may not have a
> > > guarantee that testing CPU 2, for instance, will always return true. That is
> > Can you please elaborate this part a bit? I'm having a difficult time
> > imagining the sequence of operations where this would matter but that could
> > easily be me not being familiar with the details.
> 
> I may be a bit paranoid about incorrect result due to racing as I had been
> burned before. Just testing a bit in the bitmask may probably be OK. I don't

Setting and clearing a bit is as atomic as it gets, right?

> think it will be a problem for x86, but I am less certain about other more
> exotic architectures like arm64 or PPC which I am less familiar about. I add
> a seqcount for synchronization just for the peace of mind. I can take the
> seqcount out if you don't it is necessary.

I just can't think of a case where this would be broken. The data being read
and written is atomic. There's no way to break a bit operation into multiple
pieces. It is possible to write a really bone-headed bitmask operations
(like, if you shift the bits into place or sth) to make the bits go through
unintended changes but that'd just be a flat-out broken implementation. Even
for a bitmask where write accesses are synchronized through a spinlock, we
should still be able to use test_bit() without holding the lock. This seems
like a pretty basic assumption.

Adding unnecessary synchronization confuses the readers. If we don't need
it, we shouldn't have it.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-01 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-27  4:19 [PATCH-cgroup 0/2] cgroup/cpuset: Include isolated cpuset CPUs in cpu_is_isolated() Waiman Long
2023-11-27  4:19 ` [PATCH-cgroup 1/2] cgroup/cpuset: Make callback_lock a raw_spinlock_t Waiman Long
2023-11-27  4:19 ` [PATCH-cgroup 2/2] cgroup/cpuset: Include isolated cpuset CPUs in cpu_is_isolated() check Waiman Long
2023-11-28 16:56   ` Tejun Heo
2023-11-28 18:32     ` Waiman Long
2023-11-28 22:12       ` Tejun Heo
2023-11-29 16:01         ` Waiman Long
2023-12-01 17:06           ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2023-12-05 22:16             ` Waiman Long

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