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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Elizabeth Figura <zfigura@codeweavers.com>,
	x86@kernel.org,  Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	 Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	 Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	 Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>,
	wine-devel@winehq.org
Subject: Re: x86 SGDT emulation for Wine
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2024 17:21:19 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZZdZj7p1OcrAzDcQ@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B042BACA-839E-4A42-9BAA-AC7E58624250@zytor.com>

On Thu, Jan 04, 2024, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On January 3, 2024 10:35:28 PM PST, Elizabeth Figura <zfigura@codeweavers.com> wrote:
> >That still leaves the question of performance though. If having to exit the VM 
> >that often for performance reasons isn't feasible, then that's still going to 
> >force us to implement from scratch an inordinate amount of kernel/library code 
> >inside the VM just to avoid the transition. Or, more likely, conclude that a 
> >hypervisor just isn't going to work for us.
> >
> >I'm not at all familiar with the arch code, and I'm sure I'm not asking 
> >anything interesting, but is it really impossible to put CPU_ENTRY_AREA_RO_IDT 
> >somewhere that doesn't truncate to NULL, and to put the GDT at a fixed address 
> >as well?
> 
> Putting the GDT at a fixed address is pretty much a no-go for a variety of
> reasons. As I said, a prctl() to specify the desired return information *on
> UMIP-capable hardware* is certainly doable. However, it does not address
> things like fixed selectors that have come up.
> 
> Note that there is no fundamental reason you cannot run the Unix user space
> code inside the VM container, too; you only need to vmexit on an actual
> system call. KVM might be able to assist there by providing a "short-circuit
> mode", allowing a system call vmexit to invoke the system call directly
> rather than having to bounce back to user space – twice.

Heh, I recommend not re-opening that can of worms[1], though some of the follow-up
work[2] from the gVisor folks might be useful/relevant?

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220722230241.1944655-1-avagin@google.com
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230308073201.3102738-1-avagin@google.com

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-05  1:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-27 22:20 x86 SGDT emulation for Wine Elizabeth Figura
2023-12-27 23:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-01-02 17:12   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-02 19:53   ` Elizabeth Figura
2024-01-03  7:30     ` Stefan Dösinger
2024-01-03 15:19     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-03 15:33       ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-01-04  6:35         ` Elizabeth Figura
2024-01-05  1:02           ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-01-05  1:21             ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-01-05  2:47             ` Andrew Cooper
2024-01-05  4:03               ` H. Peter Anvin

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