From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] timers: Exclude isolated cpus from timer migation
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 16:20:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z_fTmzdvLEmrAth6@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4fdc6582c828fbcd8c6ad202ed7ab560134d1fc3.camel@redhat.com>
Le Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 03:56:02PM +0200, Gabriele Monaco a écrit :
> On Thu, 2025-04-10 at 15:27 +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > But how do we handle global timers that have been initialized and
> > queued from
> > isolated CPUs?
>
> I need to sketch a bit more the solution but the rough idea is:
> 1. isolated CPUs don't pull remote timers
That's the "easy" part.
> 2. isolated CPUs ignore their global timers and let others pull them
> perhaps with some more logic to avoid it expiring
This will always involve added overhead because you may need to wake up
a CPU upon enqueueing a global timer to make sure it will be handled.
At least when all other CPUs are idle.
> Wouldn't that be sufficient?
>
> Also, I would definitely do 1. for any kind of isolation, but I'm not
> sure about 2.
> Strictly speaking domain isolated cores don't claim to be free of
> kernel noise, even if they initiate it (but nohz_full ones do).
> What would be the expectation there?
I don't know, I haven't heard complains about isolcpus handling global
timers so far...
I wouldn't pay much attention to 2) until anybody complains. Does 1) even
matter to anybody outside nohz_full ?
Thanks.
--
Frederic Weisbecker
SUSE Labs
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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-10 6:54 [PATCH] timers: Exclude isolated cpus from timer migation Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-10 8:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-04-10 10:38 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-10 13:03 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-04-10 13:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-04-10 13:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-04-10 13:56 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-10 14:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2025-04-10 14:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-04-10 14:54 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-04-10 15:06 ` Waiman Long
2025-04-10 14:46 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-10 14:59 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-04-10 15:05 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-10 15:32 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-04-11 7:08 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-11 11:31 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-04-11 13:02 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-11 22:57 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-04-14 8:06 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-10 14:35 ` Waiman Long
2025-04-10 14:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-04-10 14:49 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-10 14:50 ` Waiman Long
2025-04-10 14:56 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-04-10 13:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-04-10 14:21 ` Waiman Long
2025-04-10 14:32 ` Waiman Long
2025-04-11 7:12 ` kernel test robot
2025-04-11 9:27 ` kernel test robot
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