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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] timers: Exclude isolated cpus from timer migation
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 13:31:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z_j9fOxE4Ia79dtz@pavilion.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <75607f0eb5939bf1651ff2e6c3eda4df2b4f26f0.camel@redhat.com>

Le Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 09:08:35AM +0200, Gabriele Monaco a écrit :
> Mmh, my patch is in fact allowing isolated cores to still migrate
> everything if they go offline.

Sure that doesn't change.

> 
> However I don't think housekeeping CPUs can execute remote timers on
> isolated ones.

I'm confused, a CPU can't execute something on another CPU (except with
an IPI). But:

Before your patch, a housekeeping or isolated CPU can pull timers from
any other CPU and execute them on its behalf.

After your patch, a housekeeping CPU can only pull timers from other
housekeeping CPUs. And isolated CPUs each execute their own global timers.


> That is not a problem for offline CPUs (they won't start
> anything and do the migration while offlining is enough), but we should
> allow it here.
> I may be missing something, but isn't it what [1] is doing?

That's only something that avoids pulling timers from offlining CPUs.

The real migration happens at timers_dead_cpu(), which is called
directly by cpu_down() / cpu_up() callers context. And timers are
migrated to the current CPU, which is fine if cpu_down()/cpu_up()
are being called from a task that is affine to housekeeping.

Thanks.

> 
> Thanks,
> Gabriele
> 
> [1] -
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.13.7/source/kernel/time/timer_migration.c#L976
> 

-- 
Frederic Weisbecker
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-11 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-10  6:54 [PATCH] timers: Exclude isolated cpus from timer migation Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-10  8:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-04-10 10:38   ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-10 13:03     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-04-10 13:15       ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-04-10 13:27         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-04-10 13:56           ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-10 14:20             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-04-10 14:46               ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-04-10 14:54                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-04-10 15:06                   ` Waiman Long
2025-04-10 14:46               ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-10 14:59                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-04-10 15:05                   ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-10 15:32                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-04-11  7:08                       ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-11 11:31                         ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2025-04-11 13:02                           ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-11 22:57                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-04-14  8:06                               ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-10 14:35       ` Waiman Long
2025-04-10 14:43         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-04-10 14:49           ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-10 14:50           ` Waiman Long
2025-04-10 14:56             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-04-10 13:08     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-04-10 14:21     ` Waiman Long
2025-04-10 14:32 ` Waiman Long
2025-04-11  7:12 ` kernel test robot
2025-04-11  9:27 ` kernel test robot

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