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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>
Cc: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Bastien Curutchet" <bastien.curutchet@bootlin.com>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] uio/dma-buf: Give UIO users access to DMA addresses.
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 04:24:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z_zwZYBO5Txz6lDF@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250414102455.03331c0f@windsurf>

On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 10:24:55AM +0200, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> What this patch series is about is to add new user-space interface to
> extend the existing UIO subsystem.

Which as I explained to you is fundamentally broken and unsafe.  If you
need to do DMA from userspae you need to use vfio/iommufd.

> I am not sure how this can work in our use-case. We have a very simple
> set of IP blocks implemented in a FPGA, some of those IP blocks are
> able to perform DMA operations. The register of those IP blocks are
> mapped into a user-space application using the existing, accepted
> upstream, UIO subsystem. Some of those registers allow to program DMA
> transfers. So far, we can do all what we need, except program those DMA
> transfers. Lots of people are having the same issue, and zillions of
> ugly out-of-tree solutions flourish all over, and we're trying to see
> if we can constructively find a solution that would be acceptable
> upstream to resolve this use-case. Our platform is an old PowerPC with
> no IOMMU.

Then your driver design can't work and you need to replace it with a
proper in-kernel driver.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-04-14 11:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-10 14:53 [PATCH 0/3] uio/dma-buf: Give UIO users access to DMA addresses Bastien Curutchet
2025-04-10 14:53 ` [PATCH 1/3] dma-buf: Allow heap that doesn't provide map_buf/unmap_buf Bastien Curutchet
2025-04-10 14:53 ` [PATCH 2/3] dma-buf: Add DMA_BUF_IOCTL_GET_DMA_ADDR Bastien Curutchet
2025-04-11 18:34   ` Nicolas Dufresne
2025-04-29  6:39     ` Simona Vetter
2025-04-29  8:12       ` Christian König
2025-04-10 14:53 ` [PATCH 3/3] uio: Add UIO_DMABUF_HEAP Bastien Curutchet
2025-04-11 18:41   ` Nicolas Dufresne
2025-04-10 16:29 ` [PATCH 0/3] uio/dma-buf: Give UIO users access to DMA addresses Christian König
2025-04-10 19:43   ` Thomas Petazzoni
     [not found]     ` <b596c9af-c0e3-4557-b45a-462a33179235@amd.com>
2025-04-11  8:14       ` Bastien Curutchet
2025-04-11 12:41         ` Christian König
2025-04-14  8:17           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2025-04-14  8:59             ` Christian König
2025-04-14  5:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-14  8:24   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2025-04-14  9:11     ` Christian König
2025-04-14 11:52       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2025-04-14 11:24     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-04-14 11:48       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2025-04-14 17:08         ` Andrew Davis
2025-04-14 19:21           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2025-04-14 20:13             ` Andrew Davis
2025-04-22 18:16             ` Jason Gunthorpe

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