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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH printk v3 11/14] printk: ringbuffer: Consider committed as finalized in panic
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 11:11:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZcNXQ3qZBdyB7GmK@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v873ngvl.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>

On Mon 2024-02-05 15:14:14, John Ogness wrote:
> On 2024-02-01, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> wrote:
> > On Thu 2023-12-14 22:47:58, John Ogness wrote:
> >> A descriptor in the committed state means the record does not yet
> >> exist for the reader. However, for the panic CPU, committed
> >> records should be handled as finalized records since they contain
> >> message data in a consistent state and may contain additional
> >> hints as to the cause of the panic.
> >> 
> >> Add an exception for records in the commit state to not be
> >> considered non-existing when reading from the panic CPU.
> >
> > IMHO, it is important to describe effects of this change in more
> > details. And I think that it actually does not work as expected,
> > see below.
> 
> I reviewed my notes from our meeting in Richmond. We had agreed that
> this feature should not apply to the latest message. That would change
> the commit message to be as follows:
> 
>     printk: ringbuffer: Consider committed as finalized in panic
>     
>     A descriptor in the committed state means the record does not yet
>     exist for the reader. However, for the panic CPU, committed
>     records should be handled as finalized records since they contain
>     message data in a consistent state and may contain additional
>     hints as to the cause of the panic.
>     
>     The only exception is the last record. The panic CPU may be
>     usig LOG_CONT and the individual pieces should not be printed
>     separately.

This was my first understanding. But then I realized that appended
pieces would not be printed at all when a committed part
was printed.

And it might be even worse. I have realized yesterday that an
attempt to print the last record in the committed state might
cause missing the trailing '\0' in the copied data. Just imagine
the following race:

CPU0				CPU1

prb_read()
  // read last record in committed state
  copy_data(.., info->text_len)

				prb_reserve_in_last()
				printk_sprint(&r.text_buf[0], reserve_size, ...
				prb_commit()

     // copy data_size before appending
     // from already appended buffer
     // The trailing '\0' is not in the copied part
     memcpy(&buf[0], data, data_size);

BANG: CPU0 would try to use a string without the trailing '\0'.

We should probably add a sanity check and fixup for this potential
problem.


>     Add a special-case check for records in the commit state to not
>     be considered non-existing when reading from the panic CPU and
>     it is not the last record.
>
> >> --- a/kernel/printk/printk_ringbuffer.c
> >> +++ b/kernel/printk/printk_ringbuffer.c
> >> @@ -1875,16 +1877,25 @@ static int desc_read_finalized_seq(struct prb_desc_ring *desc_ring,
> >>  
> >>  	/*
> >>  	 * An unexpected @id (desc_miss) or @seq mismatch means the record
> >> -	 * does not exist. A descriptor in the reserved or committed state
> >> -	 * means the record does not yet exist for the reader.
> >> +	 * does not exist. A descriptor in the reserved state means the
> >> +	 * record does not yet exist for the reader.
> >>  	 */
> >>  	if (d_state == desc_miss ||
> >>  	    d_state == desc_reserved ||
> >> -	    d_state == desc_committed ||
> >>  	    s != seq) {
> >>  		return -EINVAL;
> >>  	}
> >>  
> >> +	/*
> >> +	 * A descriptor in the committed state means the record does not yet
> >> +	 * exist for the reader. However, for the panic CPU, committed
> >> +	 * records are also handled as finalized records since they contain
> >> +	 * message data in a consistent state and may contain additional
> >> +	 * hints as to the cause of the panic.
> >> +	 */
> >> +	if (d_state == desc_committed && !this_cpu_in_panic())
> >> +		return -EINVAL;
> 
> And this code would change to:
> 
> +	/*
> +	 * A descriptor in the committed state means the record does not yet
> +	 * exist for the reader. However, for the panic CPU, committed
> +	 * records are also handled as finalized records since they contain
> +	 * message data in a consistent state and may contain additional
> +	 * hints as to the cause of the panic. The only exception is the
> +	 * last record, which may still be appended by the panic CPU and so
> +	 * is not available to the panic CPU for reading.
> +	 */
> +	if (d_state == desc_committed &&
> +	    (!this_cpu_in_panic() || id == atomic_long_read(&desc_ring->head_id))) {
> +		return -EINVAL;
> +	}

This is clever.

Well, it would help only with a very small race window. Older
records are automatically finalized when committed. It is because
they could not be reopened. See prb_commit().

> > If I get it correctly, this causes that panic CPU would see a
> > non-finalized continuous line as finalized. And it would flush
> > the existing piece to consoles.
> >
> > The problem is that pr_cont() would append the message into
> > the same record. But the consoles would already wait
> > for the next record. They would miss the appended pieces.
> 
> Exactly. That is why we said that the last message would not be
> available. Maybe this new version is acceptable.
> 
> > Honestly, I think that it is not worth the effort. It would add
> > another complexity to the memory barriers. The real effect is not easy
> > to understand. And the benefit is minimal from my POV.
> 
> I am OK with dropping this patch from the series. It is questionable how
> valuable a LOG_CONT piece from a non-panic CPU is anyway. And if the
> non-panic CPU managed to reopen the record, it would be skipped anyway.
> 
> I will drop this patch unless you want to keep the new version.

Honestly, I would drop it. It is kind of tricky code. And it would
help only with a very small race window with messages from
non-panic() CPUs. Especially with the 14th patch which
blocks messages from other CPUs during panic() anyway.

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-07 10:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-14 21:41 [PATCH printk v3 00/14] fix console flushing John Ogness
2023-12-14 21:41 ` [PATCH printk v3 01/14] printk: nbcon: Relocate 32bit seq macros John Ogness
2024-01-12 10:14   ` Petr Mladek
2023-12-14 21:41 ` [PATCH printk v3 02/14] printk: Adjust mapping for " John Ogness
2023-12-15  9:55   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-12-15 10:10     ` John Ogness
2023-12-15 10:58       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-01-12 10:28   ` Petr Mladek
2024-01-12 18:14     ` Petr Mladek
2024-01-15  8:51       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-01-15 10:52       ` John Ogness
2024-01-15 16:17         ` Petr Mladek
2024-01-15 17:08           ` John Ogness
2023-12-14 21:41 ` [PATCH printk v3 03/14] printk: Use prb_first_seq() as base " John Ogness
2024-01-12 16:19   ` Petr Mladek
2023-12-14 21:41 ` [PATCH printk v3 04/14] printk: ringbuffer: Do not skip non-finalized records with prb_next_seq() John Ogness
2024-01-12 18:05   ` Petr Mladek
2024-01-15 11:55     ` John Ogness
2024-01-15 17:00       ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-05 11:33         ` John Ogness
2024-02-06 17:27           ` Petr Mladek
2023-12-14 21:41 ` [PATCH printk v3 05/14] printk: ringbuffer: Clarify special lpos values John Ogness
2024-01-30 13:12   ` Petr Mladek
2023-12-14 21:41 ` [PATCH printk v3 06/14] printk: For @suppress_panic_printk check for other CPU in panic John Ogness
2023-12-14 21:41 ` [PATCH printk v3 07/14] printk: Add this_cpu_in_panic() John Ogness
2023-12-14 21:41 ` [PATCH printk v3 08/14] printk: ringbuffer: Cleanup reader terminology John Ogness
2024-01-30 14:36   ` Petr Mladek
2023-12-14 21:41 ` [PATCH printk v3 09/14] printk: Wait for all reserved records with pr_flush() John Ogness
2024-01-31 11:36   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-05 13:33     ` John Ogness
2024-02-07  9:20       ` Petr Mladek
2023-12-14 21:41 ` [PATCH printk v3 10/14] printk: ringbuffer: Skip non-finalized records in panic John Ogness
2024-02-01 16:56   ` Petr Mladek
2023-12-14 21:41 ` [PATCH printk v3 11/14] printk: ringbuffer: Consider committed as finalized " John Ogness
2024-02-01 18:00   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-05 14:08     ` John Ogness
2024-02-07 10:11       ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2023-12-14 21:41 ` [PATCH printk v3 12/14] printk: Disable passing console lock owner completely during panic() John Ogness
2023-12-14 21:42 ` [PATCH printk v3 13/14] printk: Avoid non-panic CPUs writing to ringbuffer John Ogness
2024-02-02  9:26   ` Petr Mladek
2023-12-14 21:42 ` [PATCH printk v3 14/14] panic: Flush kernel log buffer at the end John Ogness
2024-02-02  9:30   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-02  9:38 ` [PATCH printk v3 00/14] fix console flushing Petr Mladek

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