From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Sebastian Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Giovanni Gherdovich <ggherdovich@suse.cz>,
Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>,
"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@intel.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 18/20] timers: Implement the hierarchical pull model
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 23:45:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZdZ87whmpul8xIBI@pavilion.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240221090548.36600-19-anna-maria@linutronix.de>
Le Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 10:05:46AM +0100, Anna-Maria Behnsen a écrit :
> Placing timers at enqueue time on a target CPU based on dubious heuristics
> does not make any sense:
>
> 1) Most timer wheel timers are canceled or rearmed before they expire.
>
> 2) The heuristics to predict which CPU will be busy when the timer expires
> are wrong by definition.
>
> So placing the timers at enqueue wastes precious cycles.
>
> The proper solution to this problem is to always queue the timers on the
> local CPU and allow the non pinned timers to be pulled onto a busy CPU at
> expiry time.
>
> Therefore split the timer storage into local pinned and global timers:
> Local pinned timers are always expired on the CPU on which they have been
> queued. Global timers can be expired on any CPU.
>
> As long as a CPU is busy it expires both local and global timers. When a
> CPU goes idle it arms for the first expiring local timer. If the first
> expiring pinned (local) timer is before the first expiring movable timer,
> then no action is required because the CPU will wake up before the first
> movable timer expires. If the first expiring movable timer is before the
> first expiring pinned (local) timer, then this timer is queued into an idle
> timerqueue and eventually expired by another active CPU.
>
> To avoid global locking the timerqueues are implemented as a hierarchy. The
> lowest level of the hierarchy holds the CPUs. The CPUs are associated to
> groups of 8, which are separated per node. If more than one CPU group
> exist, then a second level in the hierarchy collects the groups. Depending
> on the size of the system more than 2 levels are required. Each group has a
> "migrator" which checks the timerqueue during the tick for remote expirable
> timers.
>
> If the last CPU in a group goes idle it reports the first expiring event in
> the group up to the next group(s) in the hierarchy. If the last CPU goes
> idle it arms its timer for the first system wide expiring timer to ensure
> that no timer event is missed.
>
> Signed-off-by: Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>
Reviewed-by: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Though I must confess I only had a shallow look at group creation (init_group,
get_group, connect_child_parent, setup_groups, add_cpu, and tmigr_init). But for
the rest, I'm running out of bad scenarios. Time for the rest of the world to
find them!
Thanks for the hard work!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-02-21 22:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-21 9:05 [PATCH v11 00/20] timers: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 01/20] timers: Restructure get_next_timer_interrupt() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 02/20] timers: Split out get next timer interrupt Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 03/20] timers: Move marking timer bases idle into tick_nohz_stop_tick() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 20:36 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 04/20] timers: Optimization for timer_base_try_to_set_idle() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 05/20] timers: Introduce add_timer() variants which modify timer flags Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 06/20] workqueue: Use global variant for add_timer() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 07/20] timers: add_timer_on(): Make sure TIMER_PINNED flag is set Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] timers: Make sure TIMER_PINNED flag is set in add_timer_on() tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 08/20] timers: Ease code in run_local_timers() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] timers: Simplify " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 09/20] timers: Split next timer interrupt logic Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 10/20] timers: Keep the pinned timers separate from the others Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 11/20] timers: Retrieve next expiry of pinned/non-pinned timers separately Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 12/20] timers: Split out "get next timer interrupt" functionality Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 13/20] timers: Add get next timer interrupt functionality for remote CPUs Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 20:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 14/20] timers: Restructure internal locking Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Richard Cochran (linutronix GmbH)
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 15/20] timers: Check if timers base is handled already Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 16/20] tick/sched: Split out jiffies update helper function Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Richard Cochran (linutronix GmbH)
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 17/20] timers: Introduce function to check timer base is_idle flag Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 18/20] timers: Implement the hierarchical pull model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 10:37 ` [PATCH v11a] " Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 22:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2024-02-22 8:17 ` [PATCH v11 18/20] " Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 10:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-22 10:37 ` [PATCH v11b " Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 10:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 19/20] timer_migration: Add tracepoints Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 22:46 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-21 23:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-02-22 10:34 ` [PATCH v11a " Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 14:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 20/20] timers: Always queue timers on the local CPU Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 22:57 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 13:33 ` [PATCH] timers/timer_migration: Fix memory barrier comment Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 13:44 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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