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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Sebastian Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Giovanni Gherdovich <ggherdovich@suse.cz>,
	Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>,
	"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
	Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@intel.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 18/20] timers: Implement the hierarchical pull model
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 23:45:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZdZ87whmpul8xIBI@pavilion.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240221090548.36600-19-anna-maria@linutronix.de>

Le Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 10:05:46AM +0100, Anna-Maria Behnsen a écrit :
> Placing timers at enqueue time on a target CPU based on dubious heuristics
> does not make any sense:
> 
>  1) Most timer wheel timers are canceled or rearmed before they expire.
> 
>  2) The heuristics to predict which CPU will be busy when the timer expires
>     are wrong by definition.
> 
> So placing the timers at enqueue wastes precious cycles.
> 
> The proper solution to this problem is to always queue the timers on the
> local CPU and allow the non pinned timers to be pulled onto a busy CPU at
> expiry time.
> 
> Therefore split the timer storage into local pinned and global timers:
> Local pinned timers are always expired on the CPU on which they have been
> queued. Global timers can be expired on any CPU.
> 
> As long as a CPU is busy it expires both local and global timers. When a
> CPU goes idle it arms for the first expiring local timer. If the first
> expiring pinned (local) timer is before the first expiring movable timer,
> then no action is required because the CPU will wake up before the first
> movable timer expires. If the first expiring movable timer is before the
> first expiring pinned (local) timer, then this timer is queued into an idle
> timerqueue and eventually expired by another active CPU.
> 
> To avoid global locking the timerqueues are implemented as a hierarchy. The
> lowest level of the hierarchy holds the CPUs. The CPUs are associated to
> groups of 8, which are separated per node. If more than one CPU group
> exist, then a second level in the hierarchy collects the groups. Depending
> on the size of the system more than 2 levels are required. Each group has a
> "migrator" which checks the timerqueue during the tick for remote expirable
> timers.
> 
> If the last CPU in a group goes idle it reports the first expiring event in
> the group up to the next group(s) in the hierarchy. If the last CPU goes
> idle it arms its timer for the first system wide expiring timer to ensure
> that no timer event is missed.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>

Reviewed-by: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>

Though I must confess I only had a shallow look at group creation (init_group,
get_group, connect_child_parent, setup_groups, add_cpu, and tmigr_init). But for
the rest, I'm running out of bad scenarios. Time for the rest of the world to
find them!

Thanks for the hard work!

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-21 22:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-21  9:05 [PATCH v11 00/20] timers: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 01/20] timers: Restructure get_next_timer_interrupt() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 02/20] timers: Split out get next timer interrupt Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 03/20] timers: Move marking timer bases idle into tick_nohz_stop_tick() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 20:36   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-22 17:12   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 04/20] timers: Optimization for timer_base_try_to_set_idle() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 05/20] timers: Introduce add_timer() variants which modify timer flags Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 06/20] workqueue: Use global variant for add_timer() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 07/20] timers: add_timer_on(): Make sure TIMER_PINNED flag is set Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12   ` [tip: timers/core] timers: Make sure TIMER_PINNED flag is set in add_timer_on() tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 08/20] timers: Ease code in run_local_timers() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12   ` [tip: timers/core] timers: Simplify " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 09/20] timers: Split next timer interrupt logic Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 10/20] timers: Keep the pinned timers separate from the others Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 11/20] timers: Retrieve next expiry of pinned/non-pinned timers separately Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 12/20] timers: Split out "get next timer interrupt" functionality Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 13/20] timers: Add get next timer interrupt functionality for remote CPUs Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 20:50   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-22 17:12   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 14/20] timers: Restructure internal locking Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Richard Cochran (linutronix GmbH)
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 15/20] timers: Check if timers base is handled already Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 16/20] tick/sched: Split out jiffies update helper function Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Richard Cochran (linutronix GmbH)
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 17/20] timers: Introduce function to check timer base is_idle flag Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 18/20] timers: Implement the hierarchical pull model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 10:37   ` [PATCH v11a] " Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 22:45   ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2024-02-22  8:17     ` [PATCH v11 18/20] " Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 10:25       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-22 10:37   ` [PATCH v11b " Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 10:50     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-22 17:12     ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 19/20] timer_migration: Add tracepoints Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 22:46   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-21 23:17   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-02-22 10:34   ` [PATCH v11a " Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 14:59     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-02-22 17:12     ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21  9:05 ` [PATCH v11 20/20] timers: Always queue timers on the local CPU Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 22:57   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-22 17:12   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 13:33 ` [PATCH] timers/timer_migration: Fix memory barrier comment Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 13:44   ` Frederic Weisbecker

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