From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Sebastian Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Giovanni Gherdovich <ggherdovich@suse.cz>,
Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>,
"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@intel.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 18/20] timers: Implement the hierarchical pull model
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 11:25:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZdchHZCcE/LkxBYt@lothringen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87jzmwnc9y.fsf@somnus>
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 09:17:29AM +0100, Anna-Maria Behnsen wrote:
> Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org> writes:
>
> > Le Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 10:05:46AM +0100, Anna-Maria Behnsen a écrit :
> >> Placing timers at enqueue time on a target CPU based on dubious heuristics
> >> does not make any sense:
> >>
> >> 1) Most timer wheel timers are canceled or rearmed before they expire.
> >>
> >> 2) The heuristics to predict which CPU will be busy when the timer expires
> >> are wrong by definition.
> >>
> >> So placing the timers at enqueue wastes precious cycles.
> >>
> >> The proper solution to this problem is to always queue the timers on the
> >> local CPU and allow the non pinned timers to be pulled onto a busy CPU at
> >> expiry time.
> >>
> >> Therefore split the timer storage into local pinned and global timers:
> >> Local pinned timers are always expired on the CPU on which they have been
> >> queued. Global timers can be expired on any CPU.
> >>
> >> As long as a CPU is busy it expires both local and global timers. When a
> >> CPU goes idle it arms for the first expiring local timer. If the first
> >> expiring pinned (local) timer is before the first expiring movable timer,
> >> then no action is required because the CPU will wake up before the first
> >> movable timer expires. If the first expiring movable timer is before the
> >> first expiring pinned (local) timer, then this timer is queued into an idle
> >> timerqueue and eventually expired by another active CPU.
> >>
> >> To avoid global locking the timerqueues are implemented as a hierarchy. The
> >> lowest level of the hierarchy holds the CPUs. The CPUs are associated to
> >> groups of 8, which are separated per node. If more than one CPU group
> >> exist, then a second level in the hierarchy collects the groups. Depending
> >> on the size of the system more than 2 levels are required. Each group has a
> >> "migrator" which checks the timerqueue during the tick for remote expirable
> >> timers.
> >>
> >> If the last CPU in a group goes idle it reports the first expiring event in
> >> the group up to the next group(s) in the hierarchy. If the last CPU goes
> >> idle it arms its timer for the first system wide expiring timer to ensure
> >> that no timer event is missed.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>
> >
> > Reviewed-by: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
> >
> > Though I must confess I only had a shallow look at group creation (init_group,
> > get_group, connect_child_parent, setup_groups, add_cpu, and tmigr_init). But for
> > the rest, I'm running out of bad scenarios. Time for the rest of the world to
> > find them!
> >
> > Thanks for the hard work!
>
> Thank you for your support!
>
> Did you saw the v11a for this patch? It is only a cleanup - it removes
> an unused variable. Just asking, because Review was for plain v11 patch.
Yep, I reviewed the 11a one, with the "leftmost" variable off.
Thanks.
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-21 9:05 [PATCH v11 00/20] timers: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 01/20] timers: Restructure get_next_timer_interrupt() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 02/20] timers: Split out get next timer interrupt Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 03/20] timers: Move marking timer bases idle into tick_nohz_stop_tick() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 20:36 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 04/20] timers: Optimization for timer_base_try_to_set_idle() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 05/20] timers: Introduce add_timer() variants which modify timer flags Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 06/20] workqueue: Use global variant for add_timer() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 07/20] timers: add_timer_on(): Make sure TIMER_PINNED flag is set Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] timers: Make sure TIMER_PINNED flag is set in add_timer_on() tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 08/20] timers: Ease code in run_local_timers() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] timers: Simplify " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 09/20] timers: Split next timer interrupt logic Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 10/20] timers: Keep the pinned timers separate from the others Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 11/20] timers: Retrieve next expiry of pinned/non-pinned timers separately Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 12/20] timers: Split out "get next timer interrupt" functionality Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 13/20] timers: Add get next timer interrupt functionality for remote CPUs Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 20:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 14/20] timers: Restructure internal locking Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Richard Cochran (linutronix GmbH)
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 15/20] timers: Check if timers base is handled already Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 16/20] tick/sched: Split out jiffies update helper function Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Richard Cochran (linutronix GmbH)
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 17/20] timers: Introduce function to check timer base is_idle flag Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 18/20] timers: Implement the hierarchical pull model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 10:37 ` [PATCH v11a] " Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 22:45 ` [PATCH v11 18/20] " Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-22 8:17 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 10:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2024-02-22 10:37 ` [PATCH v11b " Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 10:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 19/20] timer_migration: Add tracepoints Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 22:46 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-21 23:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-02-22 10:34 ` [PATCH v11a " Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 14:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 9:05 ` [PATCH v11 20/20] timers: Always queue timers on the local CPU Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-21 22:57 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-22 17:12 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 13:33 ` [PATCH] timers/timer_migration: Fix memory barrier comment Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-22 13:44 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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