From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] sched/fair: Rename set_next_buddy() to set_next_pick()
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 10:32:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZhT9O6yd868GuAxr@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240408091605.GE21904@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 10:43:19AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > This is a mechanism to set the next task_pick target,
> > 'buddy' is too ambiguous and refers to a historic feature we
> > don't have anymore.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
> > ---
> > kernel/sched/fair.c | 28 +++++++++++++---------------
> > 1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > index 93ea653065f5..fe730f232ffd 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -3200,7 +3200,16 @@ enqueue_task_fair(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags)
> > hrtick_update(rq);
> > }
> >
> > -static void set_next_buddy(struct sched_entity *se);
> > +static void set_next_pick(struct sched_entity *se)
> > +{
> > + for_each_sched_entity(se) {
> > + if (SCHED_WARN_ON(!se->on_rq))
> > + return;
> > + if (se_is_idle(se))
> > + return;
> > + cfs_rq_of(se)->next = se;
> > + }
> > +}
> >
> > /*
> > * The dequeue_task method is called before nr_running is
> > @@ -3240,7 +3249,7 @@ static void dequeue_task_fair(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags)
> > * p is sleeping when it is within its sched_slice.
> > */
> > if (task_sleep && se && !throttled_hierarchy(cfs_rq))
> > - set_next_buddy(se);
> > + set_next_pick(se);
> > break;
> > }
> > flags |= DEQUEUE_SLEEP;
> > @@ -4631,17 +4640,6 @@ balance_fair(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *prev, struct rq_flags *rf)
> > static inline void set_task_max_allowed_capacity(struct task_struct *p) {}
> > #endif /* CONFIG_SMP */
> >
> > -static void set_next_buddy(struct sched_entity *se)
> > -{
> > - for_each_sched_entity(se) {
> > - if (SCHED_WARN_ON(!se->on_rq))
> > - return;
> > - if (se_is_idle(se))
> > - return;
> > - cfs_rq_of(se)->next = se;
> > - }
> > -}
> > -
>
> Hurmmm.. afaict the only actual user of cfs_rq->next left is task_hot(),
> no? Is that thing worth it?
Yeah, so:
1)
While you are correct in the context of my patch, I think that might be a
bug - the yield_to() methods are intending to use ->next:
/* Tell the scheduler that we'd really like se to run next. */
set_next_buddy(se);
yield_task_fair(rq);
... and yield_to() would rather fundamentally rely on ->next overriding the
next-task-pick selection, but it won't due to NEXT_BUDDY being false:
static struct sched_entity *
pick_next_entity(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq)
{
/*
* Enabling NEXT_BUDDY will affect latency but not fairness.
*/
if (sched_feat(NEXT_BUDDY) &&
cfs_rq->next && entity_eligible(cfs_rq, cfs_rq->next))
return cfs_rq->next;
> That is, should we not totally nuke the thing?
I don't think we want to nuke it - there's 3 users:
- yield()
- CFS bandwidth
- wakeup
I think the yield() and CFS bandwidth ones are genuine, but non-working due
to NEXT_BUDDY at 0. Wakeup was the original intended NEXT_BUDDY logic, but
it got turned off due to some performance or latency considerations that
might or might not be valid & relevant today.
2)
Even the task_hot() use of ->next isn't spurious: if a task has been marked
as run-next, then presumably the current task is descheduling and we should
probably not tear its ->next away in load-balancing.
3)
Side note: a set rq->next should probably reduce a candidate runqueue's
weight both in periodic load-balancing and in idle-balancing, by rq->curr's
weight or so?
So what I think we should do is to keep ->next and fix all its intended
uses, and make it all unconditional by removing both NEXT_BUDDY and
CACHE_HOT_BUDDY. I can cook up a series if you agree in principle.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-09 8:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-07 8:43 [PATCH 0/5] sched: Split out kernel/sched/fair_balance.c, numa_balancing.c and syscalls.c, plus other updates Ingo Molnar
2024-04-07 8:43 ` [PATCH 1/5] sched: Split out kernel/sched/syscalls.c from kernel/sched/core.c Ingo Molnar
2024-04-07 19:09 ` kernel test robot
2024-05-27 12:05 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/syscalls: " tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2024-04-07 8:43 ` [PATCH 2/5] sched: Split out kernel/sched/fair_balance.c from kernel/sched/fair.c Ingo Molnar
2024-04-07 10:04 ` kernel test robot
2024-04-07 10:15 ` kernel test robot
2024-04-07 20:21 ` kernel test robot
2024-04-07 8:43 ` [PATCH 3/5] sched: Split out kernel/sched/numa_balancing.c " Ingo Molnar
2024-04-07 18:49 ` kernel test robot
2024-04-07 8:43 ` [PATCH 4/5] sched/fair: Remove NEXT_BUDDY Ingo Molnar
2024-04-07 8:43 ` [PATCH 5/5] sched/fair: Rename set_next_buddy() to set_next_pick() Ingo Molnar
2024-04-08 9:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-09 8:32 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2024-04-09 9:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
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