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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: "Moger, Babu" <babu.moger@amd.com>
Cc: Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 00/17] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 13:37:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZierjRNDMfg5swT8@e133380.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <004dcaeb-30ae-4b27-895a-4025a670fcbf@amd.com>

On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 03:44:26PM -0500, Moger, Babu wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> On 4/22/24 11:34, Dave Martin wrote:
> > Hi Babu,
> > 
> > On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 03:02:45PM -0500, Moger, Babu wrote:
> >> Hi Peter,
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4/4/24 14:08, Peter Newman wrote:
> >>> Hi Babu,
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 6:07 PM Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com> wrote:
> >>>>    The list follows the following format:
> >>>>
> >>>>        * Default CTRL_MON group:
> >>>>                "//<domain_id>=<assignment_flags>"
> >>>>
> >>>>        * Non-default CTRL_MON group:
> >>>>                "<CTRL_MON group>//<domain_id>=<assignment_flags>"
> >>>>
> >>>>        * Child MON group of default CTRL_MON group:
> >>>>                "/<MON group>/<domain_id>=<assignment_flags>"
> >>>>
> >>>>        * Child MON group of non-default CTRL_MON group:
> >>>>                "<CTRL_MON group>/<MON group>/<domain_id>=<assignment_flags>"
> >>>>
> >>>>        Assignment flags can be one of the following:
> >>>>
> >>>>         t  MBM total event is assigned
> >>>>         l  MBM local event is assigned
> >>>>         tl Both total and local MBM events are assigned
> >>>>         _  None of the MBM events are assigned
> >>>>
> >>>>         Examples:
> >>>>
> >>>>         # cat /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_control
> >>>>         non_defult_group//0=tl;1=tl;2=tl;3=tl;4=tl;5=tl;6=tl;7=tl;
> >>>>         non_defult_group/non_default_mon1/0=tl;1=tl;2=tl;3=tl;4=tl;5=tl;6=tl;7=tl;
> >>>>         //0=tl;1=tl;2=tl;3=tl;4=tl;5=tl;6=tl;7=tl;
> >>>>         /default_mon1/0=tl;1=tl;2=tl;3=tl;4=tl;5=tl;6=tl;7=tl;
> >>>>
> >>>>         There are four groups and all the groups have local and total event assigned.
> >>>>
> >>>>         "//" - This is a default CONTROL MON group
> >>>>
> >>>>         "non_defult_group//" - This is non default CONTROL MON group
> >>>>
> >>>>         "/default_mon1/"  - This is Child MON group of the defult group
> >>>>
> >>>>         "non_defult_group/non_default_mon1/" - This is child MON group of the non default group
> >>>>
> >>>>         =tl means both total and local events are assigned.
> >>>
> >>> I recall there was supposed to be a way to perform the same update on
> >>> all domains together so that it isn't tedious to not do per-domain
> >>
> >> Yes. Correct. Reinette suggested to have "no domains" means ALL the domains.
> > 
> > Would "*" be more intuitive?
> 
> We could. But I don't see the need for wildcard ("*") or ranges and
> complexity that comes with that.

For "*", I mean that this would just stand for "all cpus", not a generic
string match; apologies if I didn't make that clear.

I think that an explicit "*" is still a less surprising way to say
"everything" than "" (which if it means anything at all, usually means
"nothing").

I may have misunderstood the intention here: _if_ the intention is to
provide a way to enable/disable an event in all domains without having
to enumerate them all one by one, then I think "*" is preferable syntax
to "".  That was my only real suggestion here.

> 
> Even in schemata processing we don't use the wildcard or ranges and also
> there is no mention of that in documentation.
> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/x86/resctrl.rst

I know, though writing the schemata files can be tedious and annoying,
since their content is often very repetitive, so ...

> 
> Domains(or nodes) are processed one by one. Some examples.
> 
>  # cat schemata
>     SMBA:0=2048;1=2048;2=2048;3=2048
>       MB:0=2048;1=2048;2=2048;3=2048
>       L3:0=ffff;1=ffff;2=ffff;3=ffff
> 
>   # echo "SMBA:1=64" > schemata
>   # cat schemata
>     SMBA:0=2048;1=  64;2=2048;3=2048
>       MB:0=2048;1=2048;2=2048;3=2048
>       L3:0=ffff;1=ffff;2=ffff;3=ffff

... it would be convenient to be able to do something like

# echo "SMBA:*=64" >schemata
# grep SMBA: schemata
SMBA:0=  64;1=  64;2=  64;3=  64

Anyway, this is nothing directly to do with this series; just a
thought.


> > Whatever is done here to describe the "wildcard node", would it be worth
> > having the node field parse the same way in the "schemata" files?
> > 
> > Is there any merit in having range match expressions, e.g. something like
> > 
> > 	0-3,8-11=foo;4-7,12-*=bar
> > 
> > (The latter is obvious feature creep though, so a real use case for this
> > would be needed to justify it.  I don't have one right now...)

[...]

> Thanks
> Babu Moger

I do agree that unless someone jumps up and down saying this would
help their use case, this is probably a step too far.

Just thinking aloud (and this kind of feature could be added later in a
backwards compatible way if someone really needs it).

Cheers
---Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-23 12:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-29  1:06 [RFC PATCH v3 00/17] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/17] x86/resctrl: Add support for " Babu Moger
2024-05-03 23:25   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-06 17:57     ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/17] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/17] x86/resctrl: Detect Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring feature details Babu Moger
2024-05-03 23:26   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-06 19:09     ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-07 20:27       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-09 22:34         ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-10  3:18           ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-10 17:01             ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-10 18:34               ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-11  1:40                 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce resctrl_file_fflags_init Babu Moger
2024-05-03 23:26   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-06 20:23     ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-07 20:27       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-10  0:23         ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to display the assignment state Babu Moger
2024-05-03 23:28   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-07 16:28     ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-07 20:32       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of ABMC counters Babu Moger
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/17] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable ABMC feature Babu Moger
2024-04-04  0:30   ` Peter Newman
2024-04-04 15:16     ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-04 17:36       ` Peter Newman
2024-04-04 18:35         ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-04 18:43     ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-04 19:01       ` Peter Newman
2024-05-16 20:03     ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-03 23:30   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-07 19:12     ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-07 20:32       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-09 21:45         ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/17] x86/resctrl: Initialize assignable counters bitmap Babu Moger
2024-05-03 23:31   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-07 20:03     ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce assign state for the mon group Babu Moger
2024-04-16 18:52   ` Peter Newman
2024-04-16 19:52     ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/17] x86/resctrl: Add data structures for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2024-05-03 23:32   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-07 20:40     ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-07 23:06       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-10  0:28         ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_total_cfg and mbm_local_cfg Babu Moger
2024-05-03 23:33   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-08 15:57     ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/17] x86/resctrl: Add the functionality to assign the RMID Babu Moger
2024-05-03 23:33   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-08 17:40     ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 13/17] x86/resctrl: Add the functionality to unassign " Babu Moger
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 14/17] x86/resctrl: Enable ABMC by default on resctrl mount Babu Moger
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 15/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface switch between ABMC and legacy_mbm Babu Moger
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 16/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to list assignment states of all the groups Babu Moger
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 17/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to modify assignment states of " Babu Moger
2024-04-17 17:45   ` Peter Newman
2024-04-17 19:39     ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-17 20:56       ` Peter Newman
2024-04-17 22:52         ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-02 23:00           ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-03 16:14             ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-03 21:16               ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-06 18:09                 ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-02 16:21   ` Dave Martin
2024-05-02 17:52     ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-02 18:11       ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-03 14:53       ` Dave Martin
2024-05-03 21:15         ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-04 19:08 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/17] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Peter Newman
2024-04-04 20:02   ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-22 16:34     ` Dave Martin
2024-04-22 20:44       ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-23 12:37         ` Dave Martin [this message]
2024-04-24  4:15           ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-24 14:16             ` Dave Martin
2024-04-24 19:10               ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-22 16:33 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-22 18:23   ` Peter Newman
2024-04-23 12:38     ` Dave Martin
2024-04-23 15:43       ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-23 16:17         ` Dave Martin
2024-05-01 17:48 ` Peter Newman
2024-05-02 16:25   ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-02 17:50     ` Peter Newman
2024-05-02 20:14       ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-02 23:21         ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-03  0:57           ` Peter Newman
2024-05-03 20:44             ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-03 21:00               ` Peter Newman
2024-05-03 21:15                 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-17 21:51                   ` Peter Newman
2024-05-20 14:25                     ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-20 16:00                       ` Peter Newman
2024-05-20 18:03                         ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-10  0:57               ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-10  2:47                 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-03 21:14             ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-03 23:24 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-06 17:18   ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-07 20:26     ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-08 20:07       ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-08 20:41         ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-08 23:29           ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-09 18:07             ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-09 20:34               ` Moger, Babu

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