From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Rick P Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Yan Y Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
"michael.roth@amd.com" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 07/17] KVM: x86: add fields to struct kvm_arch for CoCo features
Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 07:38:11 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZjuOUzhVIgkAQXmf@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2c8cf51456efab39beb8b4af75fc0331d7902542.camel@intel.com>
On Wed, May 08, 2024, Rick P Edgecombe wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-05-07 at 17:21 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > Can you elaborate on the reason for a per-memslot flag? We are discussing
> > > this
> > > design point internally, and also the intersection with the previous
> > > attempts to
> > > do something similar with a per-vm flag[0].
> > >
> > > I'm wondering if the intention is to try to make a memslot flag, so it can
> > > be
> > > expanded for the normal VM usage.
> >
> > Sure, I'll go with that answer. Like I said, off-the-cuff.
> >
> > There's no concrete motiviation, it's more that _if_ we're going to expose
> > a knob to userspace, then I'd prefer to make it as precise as possible to
> > minimize the changes of KVM ending up back in ABI hell again.
> >
> > > Because the discussion on the original attempts, it seems safer to keep this
> > > behavior more limited (TDX only) for now. And for TDX's usage a struct kvm
> > > bool fits best because all memslots need to be set to zap_leafs_only = true,
> > > anyway.
> >
> > No they don't. They might be set that way in practice for QEMU, but it's
> > not strictly required. E.g. nothing would prevent a VMM from exposing a
> > shared- only memslot to a guest. The memslots that burned KVM the first
> > time around were related to VFIO devices, and I wouldn't put it past
> > someone to be crazy enough
> > to expose an passhtrough an untrusted device to a TDX guest.
>
> Ok, thanks for clarification. So it's more of a strategic thing to move more
> zapping logic into userspace so the logic can change without introducing kernel
> regressions.
You're _really_ reading too much into my suggestion. As above, my suggestion
was very spur of the momemnt. I haven't put much thought into the tradeoffs and
side effects.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-08 14:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-04 12:13 [PATCH v5 00/17] KVM: SEV: allow customizing VMSA features Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 01/17] KVM: SVM: Invert handling of SEV and SEV_ES feature flags Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 02/17] KVM: SVM: Compile sev.c if and only if CONFIG_KVM_AMD_SEV=y Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 03/17] KVM: x86: use u64_to_user_ptr() Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 04/17] KVM: introduce new vendor op for KVM_GET_DEVICE_ATTR Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 21:30 ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 05/17] KVM: SEV: publish supported VMSA features Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 21:32 ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 06/17] KVM: SEV: store VMSA features in kvm_sev_info Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 07/17] KVM: x86: add fields to struct kvm_arch for CoCo features Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 21:39 ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-04-05 23:01 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-04-09 1:21 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-09 14:01 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-04-09 14:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-09 15:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-07 23:01 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-08 0:21 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-08 1:19 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-08 14:38 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-05-08 15:04 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 08/17] KVM: x86: Add supported_vm_types to kvm_caps Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 09/17] KVM: SEV: introduce to_kvm_sev_info Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 10/17] KVM: SEV: define VM types for SEV and SEV-ES Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 11/17] KVM: SEV: sync FPU and AVX state at LAUNCH_UPDATE_VMSA time Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 12/17] KVM: SEV: introduce KVM_SEV_INIT2 operation Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 13/17] KVM: SEV: allow SEV-ES DebugSwap again Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 14/17] selftests: kvm: add tests for KVM_SEV_INIT2 Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 15/17] selftests: kvm: switch to using KVM_X86_*_VM Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 16/17] selftests: kvm: split "launch" phase of SEV VM creation Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-04 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 17/17] selftests: kvm: add test for transferring FPU state into VMSA Paolo Bonzini
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