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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>
Cc: "pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] x86/reboot: Unconditionally define cpu_emergency_virt_cb typedef
Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 16:16:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zk0rXkXkchNnRxwQ@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00c59dce-e1e4-47cf-a109-722a033b00d8@intel.com>

On Wed, May 22, 2024, Kai Huang wrote:
> On 22/05/2024 8:02 am, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Wed, May 15, 2024, Kai Huang wrote:
> > > How about we just make all emergency virtualization disable code
> > > unconditional but not guided by CONFIG_KVM_INTEL || CONFIG_KVM_AMD, i.e.,
> > > revert commit
> > > 
> > >     261cd5ed934e ("x86/reboot: Expose VMCS crash hooks if and only if
> > > KVM_{INTEL,AMD} is enabled")
> > > 
> > > It makes sense anyway from the perspective that it allows the out-of-tree
> > > kernel module hypervisor to use this mechanism w/o needing to have the
> > > kernel built with KVM enabled in Kconfig.  Otherwise, strictly speaking,
> > > IIUC, the kernel won't be able to support out-of-tree module hypervisor as
> > > there's no other way the module can intercept emergency reboot.
> > 
> > Practically speaking, no one is running an out-of-tree hypervisor without either
> > (a) KVM being enabled in the .config, or (b) non-trivial changes to the kernel.
> 
> Just for curiosity: why b) is required to support out-of-tree hypervisor
> when KVM is disabled in Kconfig?  I am probably missing something.

A variety of hooks that are likely needed for any x86 hypervisor (especially on
Intel) are guarded by CONFIG_KVM.  E.g. the posted interrupt vectors (though it's
definitely possible to use a different model than KVM), the entry point for
trampolining NMIs (though again, a hypervisor could just do "INT 2", at least
until FRED comes along), and probably a few other things.

I'm sure it's possible to workaround any issues, but I would be quite surprised
if out-of-tree code went through the effort of functioning with a kernel built
to play nice with KVM.  Who knows, maybe I'm entirely wrong :-)

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-21 23:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-25 23:39 [PATCH 0/4] KVM: Register cpuhp/syscore callbacks when enabling virt Sean Christopherson
2024-04-25 23:39 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86/reboot: Unconditionally define cpu_emergency_virt_cb typedef Sean Christopherson
2024-05-13 12:50   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-13 16:01     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-13 22:44       ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-14 22:41         ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-21 20:02           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-21 21:43             ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-21 23:16               ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-04-25 23:39 ` [PATCH 2/4] KVM: x86: Register emergency virt callback in common code, via kvm_x86_ops Sean Christopherson
2024-04-26  8:52   ` Chao Gao
2024-04-26 17:08     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-13 12:55       ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-13 16:17         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-25 23:39 ` [PATCH 3/4] KVM: Register cpuhp and syscore callbacks when enabling hardware Sean Christopherson
2024-04-26  8:32   ` Chao Gao
2024-04-26 17:07     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-07 16:31   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-09 12:10     ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-13 12:56   ` Huang, Kai
2024-04-25 23:39 ` [PATCH 4/4] KVM: Rename functions related to enabling virtualization hardware Sean Christopherson
2024-05-13 12:59   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-13 16:20     ` Sean Christopherson

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