From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Yun Levi <ppbuk5246@gmail.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
Vineeth Pillai <vineeth@bitbyteword.org>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
anna-maria@linutronix.de, mingo@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
Markus.Elfring@web.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] time/tick-sched: idle load balancing when nohz_full cpu becomes idle.
Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 17:32:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZkYnKAd1Qy+yvjDY@lothringen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240516151953.GM22557@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 05:19:53PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 05:02:51PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>
> > > I'm confused, none of that makes sense. If you're part of a
> > > load-balancer, you're part of a load-balancer, no ifs buts or other
> > > nonsense.
> > >
> > > idle load balancer is no different from regular load balancing.
> > >
> > > Fundamentally, you can't disable the tick if you're part of a
> > > load-balance group, the load-balancer needs the tick.
> > >
> > > The only possible way to use nohz_full is to not be part of a
> > > load-balancer, and the only way that is so is by having (lots of) single
> > > CPU partitions.
> >
> > So you're suggesting that nohz_full should just be part of the whole
> > ilb machinery by default (that is, not fiddle with ilb internals) and
> > then it's up to CPU partitioning (through cpuset or isolcpus) to disable
> > ilb naturally. Right?
>
> Yes, but stronger, as long as the CPU is part of a load-balance domain,
> it must not disable the tick while running anything.
>
> that is, NOHZ_FULL must not become active unless it's running on a
> single CPU partition.
I like the idea but I'm afraid to introduce regressions while doing so,
with people currently using nohz_full without proper partionning...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-16 15:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-06 21:31 [PATCH] time/tick-sched: enable idle load balancing when nohz_full cpu becomes idle Levi Yun
2024-05-08 9:18 ` Markus Elfring
2024-05-09 9:59 ` Dan Carpenter
2024-05-08 17:26 ` [PATCH v2] time/tick-sched: " Levi Yun
2024-05-08 18:38 ` Markus Elfring
2024-05-08 19:15 ` Yun Levi
2024-05-08 19:22 ` [PATCH v3] " Levi Yun
2024-05-09 6:28 ` Markus Elfring
2024-05-09 7:26 ` Yun Levi
2024-05-09 8:16 ` Markus Elfring
2024-05-09 9:22 ` Yun Levi
2024-05-09 9:40 ` [v3] " Markus Elfring
2024-05-09 9:29 ` [PATCH v4] " Levi Yun
2024-05-09 9:55 ` [v4] " Markus Elfring
2024-05-15 16:41 ` [PATCH v4] " Yun Levi
2024-05-15 22:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-05-16 5:29 ` Yun Levi
2024-05-16 7:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-16 8:20 ` Yun Levi
2024-05-16 8:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-16 11:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-05-16 12:43 ` Yun Levi
2024-05-16 14:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-16 14:23 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-05-16 14:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-16 15:02 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-05-16 15:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-16 15:32 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2024-05-16 16:12 ` Yun Levi
2024-05-16 17:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-17 14:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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