From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: Bernd Schubert <bernd.schubert@fastmail.fm>,
Jingbo Xu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
lege.wang@jaguarmicro.com
Subject: Re: [HELP] FUSE writeback performance bottleneck
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2024 08:10:00 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zl4/OAsMiqB4LO0e@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpeguts=V9KkBsMJN_WfdkLHPzB6RswGvumVHUMJ87zOAbDQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 05:19:44PM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 at 16:43, Bernd Schubert <bernd.schubert@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/3/24 08:17, Jingbo Xu wrote:
> > > Hi, Miklos,
> > >
> > > We spotted a performance bottleneck for FUSE writeback in which the
> > > writeback kworker has consumed nearly 100% CPU, among which 40% CPU is
> > > used for copy_page().
> > >
> > > fuse_writepages_fill
> > > alloc tmp_page
> > > copy_highpage
> > >
> > > This is because of FUSE writeback design (see commit 3be5a52b30aa
> > > ("fuse: support writable mmap")), which newly allocates a temp page for
> > > each dirty page to be written back, copy content of dirty page to temp
> > > page, and then write back the temp page instead. This special design is
> > > intentional to avoid potential deadlocked due to buggy or even malicious
> > > fuse user daemon.
> >
> > I also noticed that and I admin that I don't understand it yet. The commit says
> >
> > <quote>
> > The basic problem is that there can be no guarantee about the time in which
> > the userspace filesystem will complete a write. It may be buggy or even
> > malicious, and fail to complete WRITE requests. We don't want unrelated parts
> > of the system to grind to a halt in such cases.
> > </quote>
> >
> >
> > Timing - NFS/cifs/etc have the same issue? Even a local file system has no guarantees
> > how fast storage is?
>
> I don't have the details but it boils down to the fact that the
> allocation context provided by GFP_NOFS (PF_MEMALLOC_NOFS) cannot be
> used by the unprivileged userspace server (and even if it could,
> there's no guarantee, that it would).
I thought we had PR_SET_IO_FLUSHER for that. Requires
CAP_SYS_RESOURCES but no other privileges, then the userspace
server will then always operate in PF_MEMALLOC_NOIO |
PF_LOCAL_THROTTLE memory allocation context.
-Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-03 22:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-03 6:17 [HELP] FUSE writeback performance bottleneck Jingbo Xu
2024-06-03 14:43 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-03 15:19 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-06-03 15:32 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-03 22:10 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2024-06-04 7:20 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-06-04 1:57 ` Jingbo Xu
2024-06-04 7:27 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-06-04 7:36 ` Jingbo Xu
2024-06-04 9:32 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-04 10:02 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-06-04 14:13 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-04 16:53 ` Josef Bacik
2024-06-04 21:39 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-04 22:16 ` Josef Bacik
2024-06-05 5:49 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-06-05 15:35 ` Josef Bacik
2024-08-22 17:00 ` Joanne Koong
2024-08-22 21:01 ` Joanne Koong
2024-08-23 3:34 ` Jingbo Xu
2024-09-13 0:00 ` Joanne Koong
2024-09-13 1:25 ` Jingbo Xu
2024-06-04 12:24 ` Jingbo Xu
2024-09-11 9:32 ` Jingbo Xu
2024-09-12 23:18 ` Joanne Koong
2024-09-13 3:35 ` Jingbo Xu
2024-09-13 20:55 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-11 23:08 ` Joanne Koong
2024-10-14 1:57 ` Jingbo Xu
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