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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 6/6] mm: Drain LRUs upon resume to userspace on nohz_full CPUs
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 16:20:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZnrSEf1xuFxKxj1D@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240625135244.20227-7-frederic@kernel.org>

On Tue 25-06-24 15:52:44, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> LRUs can be drained through several ways. One of them may add disturbances
> to isolated workloads while queuing a work at any time to any target,
> whether running in nohz_full mode or not.
> 
> Prevent from that on isolated tasks with draining LRUs upon resuming to
> userspace using the isolated task work framework.
> 
> It's worth noting that this is inherently racy against
> lru_add_drain_all() remotely queueing the per CPU drain work and
> therefore it prevents from the undesired disturbance only
> *most of the time*.

Can we simply not schedule flushing on remote CPUs and leave that to the
"return to the userspace" path?

I do not think we rely on LRU cache flushing for correctness purposes anywhere.

Please also CC linux MM ML once the core infrastructure is agreed on.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-25 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-25 13:52 [RFC PATCH 0/6] mm: LRU drain flush on nohz_full Frederic Weisbecker
2024-06-25 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] task_work: Provide means to check if a work is queued Frederic Weisbecker
2024-06-25 14:15   ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-25 15:16     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-07-03 12:42       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-07-03 12:41     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-07-16 13:00   ` Valentin Schneider
2024-06-25 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] sched/fair: Use task_work_queued() on numa_work Frederic Weisbecker
2024-07-16 13:00   ` Valentin Schneider
2024-06-25 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] sched: Use task_work_queued() on cid_work Frederic Weisbecker
2024-07-16 13:00   ` Valentin Schneider
2024-06-25 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] tick/nohz: Move nohz_full related fields out of hot task struct's places Frederic Weisbecker
2024-06-25 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] sched/isolation: Introduce isolated task work Frederic Weisbecker
2024-06-26 13:27   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-03 12:47     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-06-25 13:52 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] mm: Drain LRUs upon resume to userspace on nohz_full CPUs Frederic Weisbecker
2024-06-25 14:20   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2024-06-26 13:16     ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-06-27  6:54       ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-03 12:52     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-07-04 13:11       ` Michal Hocko
2024-07-17 13:21         ` Frederic Weisbecker

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