From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
elver@google.com, dvyukov@google.com,
dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, peterz@infradead.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, x86@kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kasan-dev@googlegroups.com,
"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] lib/Kconfig.debug: disable LOCK_DEBUGGING_SUPPORT under KMSAN
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 11:51:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZnsRq7RNLMnZsr6S@boqun-archlinux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5a38bded-9723-4811-83b5-14e2312ee75d@intel.com>
On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:23:25AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 6/21/24 02:49, Alexander Potapenko wrote:
> > config LOCK_DEBUGGING_SUPPORT
> > bool
> > - depends on TRACE_IRQFLAGS_SUPPORT && STACKTRACE_SUPPORT && LOCKDEP_SUPPORT
> > + depends on TRACE_IRQFLAGS_SUPPORT && STACKTRACE_SUPPORT && LOCKDEP_SUPPORT && !KMSAN
> > default y
>
> This kinda stinks. Practically, it'll mean that anyone turning on KMSAN
> will accidentally turn off lockdep. That's really nasty, especially for
> folks who are turning on debug options left and right to track down
> nasty bugs.
>
> I'd *MUCH* rather hide KMSAN:
>
> config KMSAN
> bool "KMSAN: detector of uninitialized values use"
> depends on HAVE_ARCH_KMSAN && HAVE_KMSAN_COMPILER
> depends on DEBUG_KERNEL && !KASAN && !KCSAN
> depends on !PREEMPT_RT
> + depends on !LOCKDEP
>
> Because, frankly, lockdep is way more important than KMSAN.
>
> But ideally, we'd allow them to coexist somehow. Have we even discussed
> the problem with the lockdep folks? For instance, I'd much rather have
> a relaxed lockdep with no checking in pfn_valid() than no lockdep at all.
The only locks used in pfn_valid() are rcu_read_lock_sched(), right? If
so, could you try (don't tell Paul ;-)) replace rcu_read_lock_sched()
with preempt_disable() and rcu_read_unlock_sched() with
preempt_enable()? That would avoid calling into lockdep. If that works
for KMSAN, we can either have a special rcu_read_lock_sched() or call
lockdep_recursion_inc() in instrumented pfn_valid() to disable lockdep
temporarily.
[Cc Paul]
Regards,
Boqun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-25 18:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-21 9:48 [PATCH 1/3] x86: mm: disable KMSAN instrumentation for physaddr.c Alexander Potapenko
2024-06-21 9:49 ` [PATCH 2/3] lib/Kconfig.debug: disable LOCK_DEBUGGING_SUPPORT under KMSAN Alexander Potapenko
2024-06-21 15:02 ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2024-06-21 16:16 ` Dave Hansen
2024-06-21 16:23 ` Dave Hansen
2024-06-25 18:51 ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2024-06-25 19:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-25 19:37 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-26 8:35 ` Alexander Potapenko
2024-06-21 9:49 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/traps: fix an objtool warning in handle_bug() Alexander Potapenko
2024-06-21 15:09 ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2024-06-21 14:57 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86: mm: disable KMSAN instrumentation for physaddr.c Kirill A . Shutemov
2024-06-21 16:40 ` Dave Hansen
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