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From: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>
To: "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, maple-tree@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] rosebush: Add new data structure
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 08:04:13 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZoNSDQfohcDHAcU9@archie.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240625211803.2750563-3-willy@infradead.org>

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On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 10:17:57PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox (Oracle) wrote:
> Rosebush is a resizing hash table.  See
> Docuemntation/core-api/rosebush.rst for details.

What about "Document Rosebush hash table - overview, implementation details/internals, and API
docs"?

> +Overview
> +========
> +
> +Rosebush is a hashtable, different from the rhashtable.  It is scalable
> +(one spinlock per bucket), resizing in two dimensions (number and size
> +of buckets), and concurrent (can be iterated under the RCU read lock).
> +It is designed to minimise dependent cache misses, which can stall a
> +modern CPU for thousands of instructions.
> +
> +Objects stored in a rosebush do not have an embedded linked list.
> +They can therefore be placed into the same rosebush multiple times and
> +be placed in multiple rosebushes.  It is also possible to store pointers
> +which have special meaning like ERR_PTR().  It is not possible to store
> +a NULL pointer in a rosebush, as this is the return value that indicates
                                "..., however, as this ..."
> +the iteration has finished.
> +
> +The user of the rosebush is responsible for calculating their own hash.
> +A high quality hash is desirable to keep the scalable properties of
> +the rosebush, but a hash with poor distribution in the lower bits will
> +not lead to a catastrophic breakdown.  It may lead to excessive memory
                                       "..., but rather it may lead to ..."
What does catastrophic breakdown mean anyway?

> +consumption and a lot of CPU time spent during lookup.
> +
> +Rosebush is not yet IRQ or BH safe.  It can be iterated in interrupt
                                     "This means that ..."
> +context, but not modified.
> +
> <snipped>...
> +IRQ / BH safety
> +---------------
> +
> +If we decide to make the rosebush modifiable in IRQ context, we need
> +to take the locks in an irq-safe way; we need to figure out how to
> +allocate the top level table without vmalloc(), and we need to manage
> +without kvfree_rcu_mightsleep().  These all have solutions, but those
> +solutions have a cost that isn't worth paying until we have users.

Use cases?

Thanks.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-07-02  1:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-25 21:17 [PATCH v2 0/5] Rosebush, a new hash table Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-06-25 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] tools: Add kernel stubs needed for rosebush Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-06-25 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] rosebush: Add new data structure Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-06-25 23:36   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2024-06-26 13:16     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-06-26 13:07   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-06-29 19:45   ` Markus Elfring
2024-07-01  1:32     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-07-01  5:21       ` [v2 " Markus Elfring
2024-07-01 14:18         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-07-02  1:04   ` Bagas Sanjaya [this message]
2024-06-25 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] rosebush: Add test suite Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-06-28 15:18   ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2024-06-29  5:13   ` Jeff Johnson
2024-06-25 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] tools: Add support for running rosebush tests in userspace Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-06-29  5:15   ` Jeff Johnson
2024-06-25 21:18 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] dcache: Convert to use rosebush Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)

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