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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Hou Wenlong <houwenlong.hwl@antgroup.com>,
	 Kechen Lu <kechenl@nvidia.com>,
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	 Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>,
	Yang Weijiang <weijiang.yang@intel.com>,
	 Robert Hoo <robert.hoo.linux@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 44/49] KVM: x86: Update guest cpu_caps at runtime for dynamic CPUID-based features
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2024 17:24:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZoyDTJ3nb_MQ38nW@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2d554577722d30605ecd0f920f4777129fff3951.camel@redhat.com>

On Thu, Jul 04, 2024, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> On Fri, 2024-05-17 at 10:39 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > -		cpuid_entry_change(best, X86_FEATURE_OSPKE,
> > -				   kvm_is_cr4_bit_set(vcpu, X86_CR4_PKE));
> > +		kvm_update_feature_runtime(vcpu, best, X86_FEATURE_OSPKE,
> > +					   kvm_is_cr4_bit_set(vcpu, X86_CR4_PKE));
> > +
> >  
> >  	best = kvm_find_cpuid_entry_index(vcpu, 0xD, 0);
> >  	if (best)
> 
> 
> I am not 100% sure that we need to do this.
> 
> Runtime cpuid changes are a hack that Intel did back then, due to various
> reasons, These changes don't really change the feature set that CPU supports,
> but merly as you like to say 'massage' the output of the CPUID instruction to
> make the unmodified OS happy usually.
> 
> Thus it feels to me that CPU caps should not include the dynamic features,
> and neither KVM should use the value of these as a source for truth, but
> rather the underlying source of the truth (e.g CR4).
> 
> But if you insist, I don't really have a very strong reason to object this.

FWIW, I think I agree that CR4 should be the source of truth, but it's largely a
moot point because KVM doesn't actually check OSXSAVE or OSPKE, as KVM never
emulates the relevant instructions.  So for those, it's indeed not strictly
necessary.

Unfortunately, KVM has established ABI for checking X86_FEATURE_MWAIT when
"emulating" MONITOR and MWAIT, i.e. KVM can't use vcpu->arch.ia32_misc_enable_msr
as the source of truth.  So for MWAIT, KVM does need to update CPU caps (or carry
even more awful MWAIT code), at which point extending the behavior to the CR4
features (and to X86_FEATURE_APIC) is practically free.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-09  0:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 185+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-17 17:38 [PATCH v2 00/49] KVM: x86: CPUID overhaul, fixes, and caching Sean Christopherson
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 01/49] KVM: x86: Do all post-set CPUID processing during vCPU creation Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  0:48   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 18:46     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:24       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 02/49] KVM: x86: Explicitly do runtime CPUID updates "after" initial setup Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  0:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 19:46     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:24       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 03/49] KVM: x86: Account for KVM-reserved CR4 bits when passing through CR4 on VMX Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  0:55   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 19:58     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:28       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 04/49] KVM: selftests: Update x86's set_sregs_test to match KVM's CPUID enforcement Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  0:55   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 05/49] KVM: selftests: Assert that the @cpuid passed to get_cpuid_entry() is non-NULL Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  0:58   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 19:33     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:28       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-11-21 18:57         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 06/49] KVM: selftests: Refresh vCPU CPUID cache in __vcpu_get_cpuid_entry() Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  0:59   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 07/49] KVM: selftests: Verify KVM stuffs runtime CPUID OS bits on CR4 writes Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:02   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 19:39     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 08/49] KVM: x86: Move __kvm_is_valid_cr4() definition to x86.h Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:02   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 09/49] KVM: x86/pmu: Drop now-redundant refresh() during init() Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:02   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 10/49] KVM: x86: Drop now-redundant MAXPHYADDR and GPA rsvd bits from vCPU creation Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:13   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 19:53     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:30       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 11/49] KVM: x86: Disallow KVM_CAP_X86_DISABLE_EXITS after " Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:17   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 19:43     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:31       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-25 18:07         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-12  7:42   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 12/49] KVM: x86: Reject disabling of MWAIT/HLT interception when not allowed Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22  5:09   ` Binbin Wu
2024-05-28 18:56     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:17   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-12  7:51   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-07-12 13:31     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 13/49] KVM: selftests: Fix a bad TEST_REQUIRE() in x86's KVM PV test Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:17   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 14/49] KVM: selftests: Update x86's KVM PV test to match KVM's disabling exits behavior Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:17   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 15/49] KVM: x86: Zero out PV features cache when the CPUID leaf is not present Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:17   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 16/49] KVM: x86: Don't update PV features caches when enabling enforcement capability Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:17   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 17/49] KVM: x86: Do reverse CPUID sanity checks in __feature_leaf() Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:17   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 18/49] KVM: x86: Account for max supported CPUID leaf when getting raw host CPUID Sean Christopherson
2024-06-19  6:17   ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-06-19  8:07     ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-07-05  1:17   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 19/49] KVM: x86: Add a macro to init CPUID features that ignore host kernel support Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:21   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 20:53     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:39       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 22:36     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:40       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 20/49] KVM: x86: Rename kvm_cpu_cap_mask() to kvm_cpu_cap_init() Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22  6:23   ` Binbin Wu
2024-05-28 18:54     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:24   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 21/49] KVM: x86: Add a macro to init CPUID features that are 64-bit only Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:24   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-17 13:31   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-05-17 17:38 ` [PATCH v2 22/49] KVM: x86: Add a macro to precisely handle aliased 0x1.EDX CPUID features Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:25   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 21:08     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:46       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-25 18:39         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-05 11:06           ` mlevitsk
2024-08-05 22:00             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-10 20:37               ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-09-11 15:37                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-22  3:17                   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-11-27 14:38                     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 23/49] KVM: x86: Handle kernel- and KVM-defined CPUID words in a single helper Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:28   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 21:18     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-17 14:00       ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-07-24 17:51       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-25 19:18         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-05 11:07           ` mlevitsk
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 24/49] KVM: x86: #undef SPEC_CTRL_SSBD in cpuid.c to avoid macro collisions Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:30   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 21:29     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:54       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-26 23:34         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-05 11:11           ` mlevitsk
2024-08-05 21:35             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-10 20:37               ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 25/49] KVM: x86: Harden CPU capabilities processing against out-of-scope features Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:31   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 18:11     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:55       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 26/49] KVM: x86: Add a macro to init CPUID features that KVM emulates in software Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:59   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 22:30     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:58       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-27  0:06         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-05 11:16           ` mlevitsk
2024-08-05 19:59             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-10 20:41               ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-09-11 16:03                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-22  3:28                   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 27/49] KVM: x86: Swap incoming guest CPUID into vCPU before massaging in KVM_SET_CPUID2 Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:32   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-08 21:37     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 28/49] KVM: x86: Clear PV_UNHALT for !HLT-exiting only when userspace sets CPUID Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:32   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 29/49] KVM: x86: Remove unnecessary caching of KVM's PV CPUID base Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 19:00     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 17:59       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 30/49] KVM: x86: Always operate on kvm_vcpu data in cpuid_entry2_find() Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 31/49] KVM: x86: Move kvm_find_cpuid_entry{,_index}() up near cpuid_entry2_find() Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 32/49] KVM: x86: Remove all direct usage of cpuid_entry2_find() Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  1:52   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 33/49] KVM: x86: Advertise TSC_DEADLINE_TIMER in KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22  9:11   ` Binbin Wu
2024-05-28 15:21     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  2:04   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 19:28     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 18:00       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 34/49] KVM: x86: Advertise HYPERVISOR " Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  2:04   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 35/49] KVM: x86: Add a macro to handle features that are fully VMM controlled Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  2:08   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 36/49] KVM: x86: Rename "governed features" helpers to use "guest_cpu_cap" Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22 14:23   ` Binbin Wu
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 37/49] KVM: x86: Replace guts of "governed" features with comprehensive cpu_caps Sean Christopherson
2024-06-20  2:20   ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-07-05  2:10   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 18:30     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 18:00       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 38/49] KVM: x86: Initialize guest cpu_caps based on guest CPUID Sean Christopherson
2024-06-20  2:24   ` Yang, Weijiang
2024-07-05  2:13   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 39/49] KVM: x86: Extract code for generating per-entry emulated CPUID information Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  2:18   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09  0:13     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 18:00       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 40/49] KVM: x86: Initialize guest cpu_caps based on KVM support Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  2:22   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09  0:10     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 18:01       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-29 15:34         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-05 11:16           ` mlevitsk
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 41/49] KVM: x86: Avoid double CPUID lookup when updating MWAIT at runtime Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  2:22   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 42/49] KVM: x86: Drop unnecessary check that cpuid_entry2_find() returns right leaf Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  2:22   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 43/49] KVM: x86: Update OS{XSAVE,PKE} bits in guest CPUID irrespective of host support Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  2:22   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 44/49] KVM: x86: Update guest cpu_caps at runtime for dynamic CPUID-based features Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  2:26   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09  0:24     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-09-10 20:41       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-09-11 15:41         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-22  2:11           ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 45/49] KVM: x86: Shuffle code to prepare for dropping guest_cpuid_has() Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  2:26   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 46/49] KVM: x86: Replace (almost) all guest CPUID feature queries with cpu_caps Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  2:34   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 19:20     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 18:01       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 47/49] KVM: x86: Drop superfluous host XSAVE check when adjusting guest XSAVES caps Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  2:36   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 19:15     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 18:02       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 48/49] KVM: x86: Add a macro for features that are synthesized into boot_cpu_data Sean Christopherson
2024-07-05  2:43   ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-09 21:13     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 18:04       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-05-17 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 49/49] *** DO NOT APPLY *** KVM: x86: Verify KVM initializes all consumed guest caps Sean Christopherson
2024-05-17 17:54 ` [PATCH v2 00/49] KVM: x86: CPUID overhaul, fixes, and caching Paolo Bonzini

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