From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Testing if two open descriptors refer to the same inode
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:08:05 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zqgg1Z9GvPZR93WC@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sevspit1.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 12:57:14PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Mateusz Guzik:
>
> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 12:40:35PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> >> * Mateusz Guzik:
> >>
> >> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 08:55:46AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> >> >> It was pointed out to me that inode numbers on Linux are no longer
> >> >> expected to be unique per file system, even for local file systems.
> >> >
> >> > I don't know if I'm parsing this correctly.
> >> >
> >> > Are you claiming on-disk inode numbers are not guaranteed unique per
> >> > filesystem? It sounds like utter breakage, with capital 'f'.
> >>
> >> Yes, POSIX semantics and traditional Linux semantics for POSIX-like
> >> local file systems are different.
> >
> > Can you link me some threads about this?
>
> Sorry, it was an internal thread. It's supposed to be common knowledge
> among Linux file system developers.
btrfs has been dealing with this issue since snapshots/subvols were
first introduced some 15-odd years ago. This isn't a new problem...
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20231025210654.GA2892534@perftesting/
> Aleksa referenced LSF/MM
> discussions.
I also referenced those discussions and the -fsdevel discussions
that have been happening for quite some time. I'll reference some
of them here again, because they are all out in the open....
https://lwn.net/Articles/975444/
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/?q=st_vol
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20231211233231.oiazgkqs7yahruuw@moria.home.lan/
-Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-29 23:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-29 6:55 Testing if two open descriptors refer to the same inode Florian Weimer
2024-07-29 9:09 ` Aleksa Sarai
2024-07-29 9:29 ` Florian Weimer
2024-07-29 10:18 ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-07-29 10:40 ` Florian Weimer
2024-07-29 10:50 ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-07-29 10:56 ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-07-29 10:57 ` Florian Weimer
2024-07-29 11:06 ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-07-29 11:36 ` Florian Weimer
2024-07-29 12:00 ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-07-29 11:40 ` Aleksa Sarai
2024-07-31 18:07 ` David Sterba
2024-07-29 11:47 ` Aleksa Sarai
2024-07-29 12:12 ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-07-29 23:19 ` Dave Chinner
2024-07-29 23:08 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2024-07-29 12:26 ` Christian Brauner
2024-07-29 13:36 ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-07-30 2:31 ` Dave Chinner
2024-07-30 4:19 ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-07-30 15:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-29 15:24 ` Jeff Layton
2024-07-29 15:39 ` Florian Weimer
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