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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH printk v3 11/19] printk: nbcon: Rely on kthreads for normal operation
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 11:52:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zqta5T-ydHcSaCvR@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZqtXMiv0ES5r91ua@pathway.suse.cz>

On Thu 2024-08-01 11:36:53, Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Wed 2024-07-31 17:31:02, John Ogness wrote:
> > On 2024-07-31, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> wrote:
> > >> @@ -4102,8 +4139,10 @@ static bool __pr_flush(struct console *con, int timeout_ms, bool reset_on_progre
> > >>  			 * that they make forward progress, so only increment
> > >>  			 * @diff for usable consoles.
> > >>  			 */
> > >> -			if (!console_is_usable(c, flags, true))
> > >> +			if (!console_is_usable(c, flags, true) &&
> > >> +			    !console_is_usable(c, flags, false)) {
> > >
> > > This looks weird. nbcon console can't make progress when
> > > "write_atomic" is not implemented and the kthreads are not
> > > running.
> > >
> > > I should be:
> > >
> > > 			if (!((console_is_usable(c, flags, true)) ||
> > > 			      (console_is_usable(c, flags, false) && printk_kthreads_running))) {
> > 
> > I would prefer to have the printk_kthreads_running check within
> > console_is_usable() for the !use_atomic case.
> 
> Makes sense.

I have realized right after sending the reply that it actually did
not make sense.

We try to use con->write_thread also in

 + console_flush_all()
   + nbcon_legacy_emit_next_record()
     + nbcon_emit_one()
       + nbcon_emit_next_record()

when (@do_cond_resched == true)   =>   (@use_atomic == false)

=> __pr_flush() actually should be able to flush the messages using
   con->write_thread() even when the kthreads are not running.


Result:

IMHO, we should not check @printk_kthreads_running at all after all.

Sigh, it might make sense to document the design from a top level
view somewhere. We should do it at the end before we forget
the details.

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-01  9:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-22 17:19 [PATCH printk v3 00/19] add threaded printing + the rest John Ogness
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 01/19] printk: nbcon: Clarify nbcon_get_default_prio() context John Ogness
2024-07-26  8:57   ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 02/19] printk: nbcon: Consolidate alloc() and init() John Ogness
2024-07-26 11:58   ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 03/19] printk: nbcon: Add function for printers to reacquire ownership John Ogness
2024-07-26 12:25   ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-29  8:36     ` John Ogness
2024-07-30  9:24       ` Petr Mladek
2024-08-27  1:32         ` John Ogness
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 04/19] printk: nbcon: Clarify rules of the owner/waiter matching John Ogness
2024-07-26 12:55   ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 05/19] printk: Fail pr_flush() if before SYSTEM_SCHEDULING John Ogness
2024-07-26 13:14   ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-26 14:45     ` John Ogness
2024-07-30  9:50       ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 06/19] printk: Flush console on unregister_console() John Ogness
2024-07-26 13:23   ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 07/19] printk: Add helpers for flush type logic John Ogness
2024-07-23  2:01   ` kernel test robot
2024-07-23  8:39     ` John Ogness
2024-07-23  3:29   ` kernel test robot
2024-07-26 15:51   ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 08/19] printk: nbcon: Add context to usable() and emit() John Ogness
2024-07-30 12:30   ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 09/19] printk: nbcon: Introduce printer kthreads John Ogness
2024-07-30 14:44   ` John Ogness
2024-07-31  9:59     ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-30 15:16   ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 10/19] printk: nbcon: Use thread callback if in task context for legacy John Ogness
2024-07-30 15:35   ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 11/19] printk: nbcon: Rely on kthreads for normal operation John Ogness
2024-07-23  3:18   ` kernel test robot
2024-07-23  8:51     ` John Ogness
2024-07-31 13:46   ` preffer_ofload param: was: " Petr Mladek
2024-08-01 14:22     ` John Ogness
2024-08-01 15:40       ` Petr Mladek
2024-08-02  7:29         ` John Ogness
2024-08-02 10:19           ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-31 14:06   ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-31 15:25     ` John Ogness
2024-08-01  9:36       ` Petr Mladek
2024-08-01  9:52         ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 12/19] printk: Provide helper for message prepending John Ogness
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 13/19] printk: nbcon: Show replay message on takeover John Ogness
2024-07-31 14:59   ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 14/19] proc: consoles: Add notation to c_start/c_stop John Ogness
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 15/19] proc: Add nbcon support for /proc/consoles John Ogness
2024-07-31 15:07   ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 16/19] tty: sysfs: Add nbcon support for 'active' John Ogness
2024-07-31 15:09   ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 17/19] printk: Implement legacy printer kthread for PREEMPT_RT John Ogness
2024-08-02 11:45   ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 18/19] printk: nbcon: Assign nice -20 for printing threads John Ogness
2024-08-02 11:47   ` Petr Mladek
2024-07-22 17:19 ` [PATCH printk v3 19/19] printk: Avoid false positive lockdep report for legacy printing John Ogness
2024-08-02 12:34   ` Petr Mladek

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