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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>
Cc: Shyam Sundar S K <Shyam-sundar.S-k@amd.com>,
	Jarkko Nikula <jarkko.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	Guruvendra Punugupati <Guruvendra.Punugupati@amd.com>,
	Krishnamoorthi M <krishnamoorthi.m@amd.com>,
	linux-i3c@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND v3 1/6] i3c: mipi-i3c-hci: Add MIPI0100 ACPI ID to the I3C Support List
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 15:17:40 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zrn9ZLEMVGm2e1Db@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240809183940461e3838@mail.local>

On Fri, Aug 09, 2024 at 08:39:40PM +0200, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> On 09/08/2024 18:57:04+0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > > Please refer to the MIPI HCI I3C DisCo specification
> > > (https://members.mipi.org/wg/All-Members/document/previewpdf/89465)
> > > section 5.4. The ASL looks the same in case of AMD.
> > > 
> > > MSFT says that they want to use MIPI0100 as mentioned in the
> > > specification.
> > 
> > MIPI doesn't know how to assign the ACPI ID correctly. But again, what I put in
> > the above is the correct way of approaching.
> > 
> > > What would you advise?
> > 
> > Since my intuition and experience tells me that the two devices even based on
> > the same IP are not the same (see word 'quirk' or '.driver_data' or alike in
> > the kernel sources) the generic ID may not be used for the specific vendor
> > unless it's _the only_ vendor for the certain IP.
> 
> Just to be clear, the HCI defines the register interface to the IP but
> not the IP itself, this is just like the various USB and SD HCIs.

Thank you for this elaboration, it's a crucial aspect!

> So we will definitively see quirks as implementers will interpret the
> interface differently

With the above remark this makes a lot of sense.

> (and so I agree with everything that was said ;) )

> > So, please do as I suggested above. And file a error report (and correction
> > proposal) to the MIPI, so in "5.1 I3C Host Controller ACPI Hardware ID (_HID)"
> > they should use _CID instead of _HID and add some text like
> > "Each vendor should dedicate it's own _HID for the platform in question. The
> > same _HID as _CID may be used if and only if vendor guarantees that there 100%
> > compatibility with MIPI as described in this and other related documents."
> > 
> > I.o.w. do you 100% guarantee that MIPI HCI I3C DisCo covers all necessary
> > properties that you need for _your_ hardware? If not, use my approach, if yes,
> > use the same _HID *and* _CID.
> > 
> > Microsoft should know this as well and much better than MIPI.

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-12 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-07  5:23 [PATCH RESEND v3 0/6] Introduce initial AMD I3C HCI driver support Shyam Sundar S K
2024-08-07  5:23 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 1/6] i3c: mipi-i3c-hci: Add MIPI0100 ACPI ID to the I3C Support List Shyam Sundar S K
2024-08-09 13:54   ` Jarkko Nikula
2024-08-09 14:18     ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-08-09 15:32       ` Shyam Sundar S K
2024-08-09 15:57         ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-08-09 16:24           ` Shyam Sundar S K
2024-08-09 18:39           ` Alexandre Belloni
2024-08-12 12:17             ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2024-08-07  5:23 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 2/6] i3c: mipi-i3c-hci: Read HC_CONTROL_PIO_MODE only after i3c hci v1.1 Shyam Sundar S K
2024-08-09 13:21   ` Jarkko Nikula
2024-08-09 15:46     ` Shyam Sundar S K
2024-08-07  5:23 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 3/6] i3c: mipi-i3c-hci: Add a quirk to set PIO mode Shyam Sundar S K
2024-08-09 13:55   ` Jarkko Nikula
2024-08-09 15:44     ` Shyam Sundar S K
2024-08-12  9:17       ` Jarkko Nikula
2024-08-12  9:32         ` Shyam Sundar S K
2024-08-19  6:41           ` Shyam Sundar S K
2024-08-19 11:10             ` Jarkko Nikula
2024-08-19 16:35               ` Shyam Sundar S K
2024-08-07  5:23 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 4/6] i3c: mipi-i3c-hci: Relocate helper macros to HCI header file Shyam Sundar S K
2024-08-09 13:21   ` Jarkko Nikula
2024-08-07  5:23 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 5/6] i3c: mipi-i3c-hci: Add a quirk to set timing parameters Shyam Sundar S K
2024-08-07  5:23 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 6/6] i3c: mipi-i3c-hci: Add a quirk to set Response buffer threshold Shyam Sundar S K

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