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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Zhang Yi <yi.zhang@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, djwong@kernel.org,
	hch@infradead.org, brauner@kernel.org, jack@suse.cz,
	willy@infradead.org, yi.zhang@huawei.com,
	chengzhihao1@huawei.com, yukuai3@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] iomap: some minor non-critical fixes and improvements when block size < folio size
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 15:16:04 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zrw9lBma/kbKV8Ls@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a08a9491-61d7-b300-55ba-b016dd5aad5a@huaweicloud.com>

On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 11:57:03AM +0800, Zhang Yi wrote:
> On 2024/8/14 10:47, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 10:14:01AM +0800, Zhang Yi wrote:
> >> On 2024/8/14 9:49, Dave Chinner wrote:
> >>> important to know if the changes made actually provided the benefit
> >>> we expected them to make....
> >>>
> >>> i.e. this is the sort of table of results I'd like to see provided:
> >>>
> >>> platform	base		v1		v2
> >>> x86		524708.0	569218.0	????
> >>> arm64		801965.0	871605.0	????
> >>>
> >>
> >>  platform	base		v1		v2
> >>  x86		524708.0	571315.0 	569218.0
> >>  arm64	801965.0	876077.0	871605.0
> > 
> > So avoiding the lock cycle in iomap_write_begin() (in patch 5) in
> > this partial block write workload made no difference to performance
> > at all, and removing a lock cycle in iomap_write_end provided all
> > that gain?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > 
> > Is this an overwrite workload or a file extending workload? The
> > result implies that iomap_block_needs_zeroing() is returning false,
> > hence it's an overwrite workload and it's reading partial blocks
> > from disk. i.e. it is doing synchronous RMW cycles from the ramdisk
> > and so still calling the uptodate bitmap update function rather than
> > hitting the zeroing case and skipping it.
> > 
> > Hence I'm just trying to understand what the test is doing because
> > that tells me what the result should be...
> > 
> 
> I forgot to mentioned that I test this on xfs with 1K block size, this
> is a simple case of block size < folio size that I can direct use
> UnixBench.

OK. So it's an even more highly contrived microbenchmark than I
thought. :/

What is the impact on a 4kB block size filesystem running that same
1kB write test? That's going to be a far more common thing to occur
in production machines for such small IO, let's make sure that we
haven't regressed that case in optimising for this one.

> This test first do buffered append write with bs=1K,count=2000 in the
> first round, and then do overwrite from the start position with the same
> parameters repetitively in 30 seconds. All the write operations are
> block size aligned, so iomap_write_begin() just continue after
> iomap_adjust_read_range(), don't call iomap_set_range_uptodate() to set
> range uptodate originally, hence there is no difference whether with or
> without patch 5 in this test case.

Ok, so you really need to come up with an equivalent test that
exercises the paths that patch 5 modifies, because right now we have
no real idea of what the impact of that change will be...

-Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-14  5:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-12 12:11 [PATCH v2 0/6] iomap: some minor non-critical fixes and improvements when block size < folio size Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] iomap: correct the range of a partial dirty clear Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 16:33   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-08-13  2:14     ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-14  1:53     ` Dave Chinner
2024-08-12 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] iomap: support invalidating partial folios Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 16:55   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-08-12 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] iomap: advance the ifs allocation if we have more than one blocks per folio Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 12:47   ` yangerkun
2024-08-13  2:21     ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-14  5:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-14  7:08     ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-15  6:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-16  1:44         ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-17  4:27     ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-17  4:42       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-17  6:16         ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] iomap: correct the dirty length in page mkwrite Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 16:45   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-08-13  2:49     ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-14  5:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-14  7:49     ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-15  5:59       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-16  2:19         ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-17  4:45   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-17  6:43     ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] iomap: don't mark blocks uptodate after partial zeroing Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 16:49   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-08-13  3:01     ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-14  5:39   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-17  4:48   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-17  7:16     ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] iomap: reduce unnecessary state_lock when setting ifs uptodate and dirty bits Zhang Yi
2024-08-12 16:54   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-08-12 17:00   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-13  8:15     ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-14  1:49 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] iomap: some minor non-critical fixes and improvements when block size < folio size Dave Chinner
2024-08-14  2:14   ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-14  2:47     ` Dave Chinner
2024-08-14  3:57       ` Zhang Yi
2024-08-14  5:16         ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2024-08-14  6:32           ` Zhang Yi

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