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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	 Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	 Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@gmail.com>,
	Sandipan Das <sandipan.das@amd.com>,
	 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>,
	 Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>,
	 Nikolay Borisov <nik.borisov@suse.com>,
	Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>, Xin Li <xin3.li@intel.com>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] x86/cpufeature: Add feature dependency checks
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2024 13:05:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZszgGxZLDQYIEJpX@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <096cdf1b-bc79-4e88-8ae9-99a373245ef8@intel.com>

On Fri, Aug 23, 2024, Sohil Mehta wrote:
> On 8/22/2024 4:27 PM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 22, 2024, Sohil Mehta wrote:
> >> Arguably, this situation should only happen on broken hardware and it may not
> >> make sense to add such a check to the kernel. OTOH, this can be viewed as a
> >> safety mechanism to make failures more graceful on such configurations in real
> >> or virtual environments.
> > 
> > And goofy Kconfigs.   But yeah, lack of any meaningful fallout is why my version
> > didn't go anywhere.
> > 
> 
> By fallout do you mean that the observed behavior when the kernel runs
> into such a misconfiguration

This.

> or just the general lack of such
> misconfigured hardware/guest?
> 
> I tried experimenting with the behavior for the last entry on the
> cpuid_deps[] table:
> { X86_FEATURE_FRED,                     X86_FEATURE_WRMSRNS   },
> 
> In this case, even if WRMSRNS is not present, the kernel would go ahead
> and enable FRED, which would cause a panic when wrmsrns() is exercised
> in update_task_stack().
> 
> I agree to the second part that such conditions are more likely to
> happen in pre-production environments.

And in VMs, e.g. unless the SDM explicitly says FRED implies WRMSRNS, it will be
architecturally legal, if unusual, to advertise FRED with WRMSRNS to a guest.

> But I still feel that for the rare case when something like this seeps
> through it would be better to disable the feature upfront than run in a
> kernel panic or some other unexpected behavior.

Agreed.

> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221203003745.1475584-2-seanjc@google.com
> > 
> 
> The code is very similar to the one I proposed. If we do take this
> forward, would it be fine if I add a Originally-by tag from you?

No need, you came up with the code independently.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-26 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-22 20:22 [RFC PATCH] x86/cpufeature: Add feature dependency checks Sohil Mehta
2024-08-22 23:27 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-23 19:05   ` Sohil Mehta
2024-08-26 20:05     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-08-26 21:47       ` Sohil Mehta

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