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From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Naveen N Rao <naveen@kernel.org>,
	Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Fixup for 3279be36b671 ("powerpc/vdso: Wire up getrandom() vDSO implementation on VDSO32")
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:35:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZtxkzjvHyaCWTsSf@zx2c4.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZttP-SU9i6iOyfnG@zx2c4.com>

On Fri, Sep 06, 2024 at 08:54:49PM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 06, 2024 at 05:14:43PM +0200, Christophe Leroy wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Le 06/09/2024 à 16:46, Jason A. Donenfeld a écrit :
> > > On Fri, Sep 06, 2024 at 04:26:32PM +0200, Christophe Leroy wrote:
> > > 
> > >> On the long run I wonder if we should try to find a more generic
> > >> solution for getrandom instead of requiring each architecture to handle
> > >> it. On gettimeofday the selection of the right page is embeded in the
> > >> generic part, see for instance :
> > >>
> > >> static __maybe_unused __kernel_old_time_t
> > >> __cvdso_time_data(const struct vdso_data *vd, __kernel_old_time_t *time)
> > >> {
> > >> 	__kernel_old_time_t t;
> > >>
> > >> 	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_TIME_NS) &&
> > >> 	    vd->clock_mode == VDSO_CLOCKMODE_TIMENS)
> > >> 		vd = __arch_get_timens_vdso_data(vd);
> > >>
> > >> 	t = READ_ONCE(vd[CS_HRES_COARSE].basetime[CLOCK_REALTIME].sec);
> > >>
> > >> 	if (time)
> > >> 		*time = t;
> > >>
> > >> 	return t;
> > >> }
> > >>
> > >> and powerpc just provides:
> > >>
> > >> static __always_inline
> > >> const struct vdso_data *__arch_get_timens_vdso_data(const struct
> > >> vdso_data *vd)
> > >> {
> > >> 	return (void *)vd + (1U << CONFIG_PAGE_SHIFT);
> > >> }
> > > 
> > > It's tempting, but maybe a bit tricky. LoongArch, for example, doesn't
> > > have this problem at all, because the layout of their vvars doesn't
> > > require it. So the vd->clock_mode access is unnecessary.
> > > 
> > >> Or another solution could be to put random data in a third page that is
> > >> always at the same place regardless of timens ?
> > > 
> > > Maybe that's the easier way, yea. Potentially wasteful, though.
> > > 
> > 
> > Indeed I just looked at Loongarch and that's exactly what they do: they 
> > have a third page after the two pages dedicated to TIME for arch 
> > specific data, and they have added getrandom data there.
> > 
> > The third page is common to every process so it won't waste more than a 
> > few bytes. It doesn't worry me even on the older boards that only have 
> > 32 Mbytes of RAM.
> > 
> > So yes, I may have a look at that in the future, what we have at the 
> > moment is good enough to move forward.
> 
> My x86 code is kind of icky for this:
> 
> static __always_inline const struct vdso_rng_data *__arch_get_vdso_rng_data(void)
> {
>         if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_TIME_NS) && __vdso_data->clock_mode == VDSO_CLOCKMODE_TIMENS)
>                 return (void *)&__vdso_rng_data + ((void *)&__timens_vdso_data - (void *)&__vdso_data);
>         return &__vdso_rng_data;
> }
> 
> Doing the subtraction like that means that this is more clearly correct.
> But it also makes the compiler insert two jumps for the branch, and then
> reads the addresses of those variables and such.
> 
> If I change it to:
> 
> static __always_inline const struct vdso_rng_data *__arch_get_vdso_rng_data(void)
> {
>         if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_TIME_NS) && __vdso_data->clock_mode == VDSO_CLOCKMODE_TIMENS)
>                 return (void *)&__vdso_rng_data + (3UL << CONFIG_PAGE_SHIFT);
>         return &__vdso_rng_data;
> }
> 
> Then there's a much nicer single `cmov` with no branching.
> 
> But if I want to do that for real, I'll have to figure out what set of
> nice compile-time constants I can use. I haven't looked into this yet.

https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240906190655.2777023-1-Jason@zx2c4.com/

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-07 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-06  8:33 [PATCH 1/2] powerpc/vdso: Fix VDSO data access when running in a non-root time namespace Christophe Leroy
2024-09-06  8:33 ` [PATCH 2/2] Fixup for 3279be36b671 ("powerpc/vdso: Wire up getrandom() vDSO implementation on VDSO32") Christophe Leroy
2024-09-06 14:07   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-09-06 14:26     ` Christophe Leroy
2024-09-06 14:46       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-09-06 15:14         ` Christophe Leroy
2024-09-06 18:54           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-09-07 14:35             ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2024-09-07 15:15               ` Christophe Leroy
2024-09-06 12:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] powerpc/vdso: Fix VDSO data access when running in a non-root time namespace Michael Ellerman
2024-09-06 12:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-09-06 13:43   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-09-06 13:57     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-09-09  5:24       ` Michael Ellerman

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