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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Amit Shah <amit@kernel.org>
Cc: David Kaplan <David.Kaplan@amd.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	 "pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	 "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	 "mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,
	 "dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"hpa@zytor.com" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	 Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: SVM: let alternatives handle the cases when RSB filling is required
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 10:06:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZuB8j02laOrxq-ji@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1cd7516391a4c51890c5b0c60a6f149b00cae3af.camel@kernel.org>

On Mon, Jul 22, 2024, Amit Shah wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-07-16 at 12:10 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > FWIW, I feel the same way about all the other post-VM-Exit mitigations,
> > they just don't stand out in the same way because the entire mitigation
> > sequence is absent on one vendor the other, i.e. they don't look wrong at
> > first glance.  But if KVM could have a mostly unified VM-Enter => VM-Exit
> > assembly code, I would happliy eat a dead NOP/JMP or three.  Now that I
> > look at it, that actually seems very doable...
> 
> Sure.  I think some of the fallacy there is also to treat VMX and SVM
> as similar (while not treating the Arm side as similar).

Bringing ARM into the picture is little more than whataboutism.  KVM x86 and KVM
arm64 _can't_ share assembly.  They _can't_ share things like MSR interception
tracking because MSRs are 100% an x86-only concept.  The fact that sharing code
across x86 and ARM is challenging doesn't have any bearing on whether or not
VMX and SVM can/should share code.

> They are different implementations, with several overlapping details - but
> it's perilous to think everything maps the same across vendors.

I never said everything maps the same.  The point I am trying to make is that
there is significant value _for KVM_ in having common code between architectures,
and between vendors within an architecture.  I can provide numerous examples
where something was implemented/fixed in vendor/arch code, and then later it was
discovered that the feature/fix was also wanted/needed in other vendor/arch code.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-10 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-26  7:37 [PATCH v2] KVM: SVM: let alternatives handle the cases when RSB filling is required Amit Shah
2024-06-28 16:09 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-06-28 18:48   ` Jim Mattson
2024-07-01 12:52     ` Amit Shah
2024-07-01 13:40       ` Kaplan, David
2024-07-08 18:59         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-15  8:35           ` Amit Shah
2024-07-16 19:10             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-22 11:55               ` Amit Shah
2024-09-10 17:06                 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-06-29 10:28   ` Borislav Petkov

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