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From: Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>
To: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
	rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	qyousef@layalina.io, hongyan.xia2@arm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/5] sched/fair: Use EAS also when overutilized
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2024 08:26:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zv5VLXVr5oYsABED@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <71e7e154-584a-4856-b906-ba92c636b17f@arm.com>

On Thursday 03 Oct 2024 at 09:15:31 (+0100), Lukasz Luba wrote:
> BTW, do you know that if you or anyone wants to improve the EAS/EM
> should be able to provide the power numbers?
> 
> W/o the power numbers the discussion is moot. Many times SW engineers
> have wrong assumptions about HW, therefore we have to test and
> measure. There are confidential power saving techniques in HW
> that can be missed and some ugly workaround created in SW for issues
> which don't exist.
> 
> That's why we have to discuss the power numbers.

And generally speaking +1 to the above, it would be nice to have power
numbers to motivate the series better. The hackbench results are nice to
show the limited overhead, but they obviously don't help evaluating the
patches against what they claim to do (making better energy decisions in
feec() and such).

Thanks,
Quentin

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-03  8:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-30 13:03 [PATCH 0/5] sched/fair: Rework EAS to handle more cases Vincent Guittot
2024-08-30 13:03 ` [PATCH 1/5] sched/fair: Filter false overloaded_group case for EAS Vincent Guittot
2024-09-02  9:01   ` Hongyan Xia
2024-09-06  6:51     ` Vincent Guittot
2024-09-13 13:21   ` Pierre Gondois
2024-08-30 13:03 ` [PATCH 2/5] energy model: Add a get previous state function Vincent Guittot
2024-09-05  9:21   ` Lukasz Luba
2024-09-06  6:55     ` Vincent Guittot
2024-08-30 13:03 ` [PATCH 3/5] sched/fair: Rework feec() to use cost instead of spare capacity Vincent Guittot
2024-09-02  9:11   ` kernel test robot
2024-09-02 11:03   ` Hongyan Xia
2024-09-06  7:08     ` Vincent Guittot
2024-09-06 15:32       ` Hongyan Xia
2024-09-12 12:12         ` Vincent Guittot
2024-09-04 15:07   ` Pierre Gondois
2024-09-06  7:08     ` Vincent Guittot
2024-09-11 14:02   ` Pierre Gondois
2024-09-11 16:51     ` Pierre Gondois
2024-09-12 12:22     ` Vincent Guittot
2024-12-05 16:23       ` Pierre Gondois
2024-08-30 13:03 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] sched/fair: Use EAS also when overutilized Vincent Guittot
2024-09-17 20:24   ` Christian Loehle
2024-09-19  8:25     ` Pierre Gondois
2024-09-25 13:28       ` Vincent Guittot
2024-10-07  7:03         ` Pierre Gondois
2024-10-09  8:53           ` Vincent Guittot
2024-10-11 12:52             ` Pierre Gondois
2024-10-15 12:47               ` Vincent Guittot
2024-10-31 15:21                 ` Pierre Gondois
2024-09-25 13:07     ` Vincent Guittot
2024-09-20 16:17   ` Quentin Perret
2024-09-25 13:27     ` Vincent Guittot
2024-09-26  9:10       ` Quentin Perret
2024-10-01 16:20         ` Vincent Guittot
2024-10-01 17:50           ` Quentin Perret
2024-10-02  7:11             ` Lukasz Luba
2024-10-02  7:55               ` Quentin Perret
2024-10-02  9:54                 ` Lukasz Luba
2024-10-03  6:27             ` Vincent Guittot
2024-10-03  8:15               ` Lukasz Luba
2024-10-03  8:26                 ` Quentin Perret [this message]
2024-10-03  8:52                 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-10-03  8:21               ` Quentin Perret
2024-10-03  8:57                 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-10-03  9:52                   ` Quentin Perret
2024-10-03 13:26                     ` Vincent Guittot
2024-11-19 14:46               ` Christian Loehle
2024-08-30 13:03 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] sched/fair: Add push task callback for EAS Vincent Guittot
2024-09-09  9:59   ` Christian Loehle
2024-09-09 12:54     ` Vincent Guittot
2024-09-11 14:03   ` Pierre Gondois
2024-09-12 12:30     ` Vincent Guittot
2024-09-13  9:09       ` Pierre Gondois
2024-09-24 12:37         ` Vincent Guittot
2024-09-13 16:08   ` Pierre Gondois
2024-09-24 13:00     ` Vincent Guittot
2024-11-07 10:14 ` [PATCH 0/5] sched/fair: Rework EAS to handle more cases Pierre Gondois
2024-11-08  9:27   ` Vincent Guittot
2024-11-08 13:10     ` Pierre Gondois
2024-11-11 19:08       ` Vincent Guittot
2024-11-28 17:24 ` Hongyan Xia
2024-11-30 10:50   ` Vincent Guittot

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